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simonmc

Hi,

It has been a few months since I enquired..last time I was advised to add to

Top: Regional: Europe: Sweden: Skåne County: Localities: Helsingborg

which I did. Still no luck getting added. :( Any idea how much longer the wait will be. :p

Thank you.

Simon


ps...my user name got mysteriously changed to redrooster. Forum bug?
 
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A clickable link to your category, as requested in the Forum Guidelines, would have been nice.

An editor noticed that your company was actually in Hyllinge, and as a result, moved it up a level to the Localities category, where it is waiting in an extremely small pool. At some point, a volunteer editor will review your site, and if they decide to list it, they will create a Hyllinge category. In the Regional branch, we list sites where they actually are, not in some nearby town.

As for your submission in http://dmoz.org/Business/Marketing_and_Advertising/Advertising/Design_Services/Logo_and_Stationery , I'm afraid that nothing has changed. The category is still quite backlogged. Sorry the news isn't better. :(
 
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ps...my user name got mysteriously changed to redrooster. Forum bug?
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Yes. Happened to a lot of people some weeks ago.
 
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Thanks for the update guys.

Heres keeping my fingers crossed. :cool:

Simon
 
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As editor nea kindly pointed out to me, the localities in the Sweden county categories are municipalities, and small villages like Hyllinge have their listings in their municipality, so my response should have read something like this:

"In that branch of the ODP, we list sites by which municipality they are actually in, not by the largest nearby city. When an editor has time to review your site, he or she will list it in an Åstorp category (Hyllinge being a village in the municipality of Åstorp), creating the category if necessary."
 
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http://thelogocompany.net

Added to:

http://dmoz.org/cgi-bin/add.cgi?where=Regional/Europe/Sweden/Skane_County/Localities/Helsingborg

and

http://dmoz.org/Business/Marketing_and_Advertising/Advertising/Design_Services/Logo_and_Stationery/

By previous answers I realise that the first submission category listed above is for the wrong place...I hope somebody would put that where it needs to go.

The second category I have been waiting almost a year for. Is it possible to say if any sites have been added to this category since I have been waiting. I know it is a busy one with a backlog...but is the backlog being reduced?

Thanks in anticipation of the update on submission of these 2 links.

Simon
 
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Actually, your site is already waiting where it belongs in Regional/, until an editor creates the proper subcategory for it. As I said in my previous post, it was moved to http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Sweden/Sk%e5ne_County/Localities , where it still awaits review in a very small pool.

I'm afraid that the status is still unchanged in the Business/ branch category as well. It is still waiting, with hundreds of other sites. This one may take a while, due to the large backlog.

Also, next time, please wait at least one calendar month before requesting a status update. Thanks.
 
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Actually, your site is already waiting where it belongs in Regional/, until an editor creates the proper subcategory for it. As I said in my previous post, it was moved to http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Sweden/Sk%e5ne_County/Localities , where it still awaits review in a very small pool.

I'm afraid that the status is still unchanged in the Business/ branch category as well. It is still waiting, with hundreds of other sites. This one may take a while, due to the large backlog.

Also, next time, please wait at least one calendar month before requesting a status update. Thanks.
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Any movement from the last time.

Main Category is:

http://dmoz.org/Business/Marketing_and_Advertising/Advertising/Design_Services/Logo_and_Stationery/

Thank you.

Simon
 
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The site is still waiting. Please note that the category you are waiting in is severely backlogged. You might want to wait a couple months in between your status checks. Your site however, is currently listed in the Regional branch of the directory.
 
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I see that in the time since I last looked at your site, the postal address has been removed. Is this an online-only business?

Also, would you please enlighten me about the relationship between this business, http://iqlogo.com/ and http://home-work-opportunity.com/ ?
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Hi,

We removed the postal address as there was no real need for it and nobody ever used it. Yes it is an online business. The relationship between the other two web sites is that IQLogo is owned by the same company but is an entirely seperate business. One business is high end and the other business is low end. Market wise that is.

Home work opportunity is another venture owned by the same people.

Is it relevant? Is there a problem with having more than one web site? Have we broken any submission rules?

We submitted Thelogocompany.com about a year ago. Not really sure now.

Let me know if we need to make any changes for submission.

Simon
 
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Yes, these questions are absolutely relevant.

1. Online-only businesses are generally not eligible for Regional/ branch listings. The Regional/ branch lists things that have a physical presence in an area -- such as a storefront where someone might go to buy something. An online-only business is not particularly relevant to an area, so they generally are not listed in a locality. There are a few exceptions, most often when the online business is a major employer in a locality (because the knowledge would be relevant to someone looking for a job, or to someone who wanted to know the major industries of a particular town).

2. If the same people own "two separate businesses" in the same industry, we are extremely unlikely to list two different URLs for them. Their business model is irrelevant to us. We don't care whether they are targeting their marketing at the high end, low end, or left-handed Swiss cattle ranchers. If the two sites offer the same service (logo design) and are run by the same people, adding both doesn't offer any additional useful information for our users -- we consider it to be one business. We also consider it to be the owners' choice to break the navigation between the services their business offers -- and it's our choice to list their business once.

Try looking at the issue from our perspective. If the site owners don't consider the information important enough to include prominent links between their service offerings to make navigation easy for their own customers, why should we (who have no interest, financial or otherwise), consider it more important than they do, and link it from our site? And if they do consider it important enough to link prominently, then we can offer easy access to all the content by just listing the site once, and allowing surfers to use the navigation as intended by the site owner.

3. I asked about Home Work Opportunity, because it wasn't clear to me if that opportunity was to create logo design firms. And to be honest, it still isn't clear.
 
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Yes, these questions are absolutely relevant.

1. Online-only businesses are generally not eligible for Regional/ branch listings. The Regional/ branch lists things that have a physical presence in an area -- such as a storefront where someone might go to buy something. An online-only business is not particularly relevant to an area, so they generally are not listed in a locality. There are a few exceptions, most often when the online business is a major employer in a locality (because the knowledge would be relevant to someone looking for a job, or to someone who wanted to know the major industries of a particular town).

2. If the same people own "two separate businesses" in the same industry, we are extremely unlikely to list two different URLs for them. Their business model is irrelevant to us. We don't care whether they are targeting their marketing at the high end, low end, or left-handed Swiss cattle ranchers. If the two sites offer the same service (logo design) and are run by the same people, adding both doesn't offer any additional useful information for our users -- we consider it to be one business. We also consider it to be the owners' choice to break the navigation between the services their business offers -- and it's our choice to list their business once.

Try looking at the issue from our perspective. If the site owners don't consider the information important enough to include prominent links between their service offerings to make navigation easy for their own customers, why should we (who have no interest, financial or otherwise), consider it more important than they do, and link it from our site? And if they do consider it important enough to link prominently, then we can offer easy access to all the content by just listing the site once, and allowing surfers to use the navigation as intended by the site owner.

3. I asked about Home Work Opportunity, because it wasn't clear to me if that opportunity was to create logo design firms. And to be honest, it still isn't clear.
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Let me answer your questions one at a time.

1. It was an ODP editor that suggested I apply for the regional placing. Not me. Due to the long time it was taking for the main listing to decrease it's backlog. That was of course when we listed our physical address on our site. Still...we would not have done that if we were not advised by your good selves to do it.

2. IQLogo is not listed. I checked earier. There should be no issue for you there as no request has been made to list. I just wanted to make sure that was not the reason that The Logo Company had not yet been listed.

3. Home-Work-Opportunity sells marketing ebooks. It has nothing to do with designing logos. The business are 100% unrelated.

I hope that clears up any misunderstanding. Let me know if that helps or not.

Simon
 
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In response to your first reply: Your Business/ listing won't be penalized because your site was briefly and erroneously listed in the Regional/ branch - it is the responsibility of the reviewing editor to make sure a site she lists is in compliance with the guidelines. I believe lachenm was just trying to point out why you are no longer eligible for a Regional/ listing.
 
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Yes, nea, that is exactly what I was trying to explain. Thank you. :)

When motsa recommended suggesting your site in the Regional/ category, she had obviously been able use your site to determine where the business was located (see the post in this thread), and assumed (as did I) that there was a physical business office where clients would go. The removal of the information and subsequent discussion has shown that this is not the case, so your site was removed from the Regional/ category. As nea said, you will not be penalized for this in any way.

And there is no issue with http://iqlogo.com/ , either. It just won't be listed. This will not affect the decision on http://thelogocompany.net in any way.

Finally, thank you for the clarification on http://home-work-opportunity.com/ .
 
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