question about ODP

If the ODP recognizes that most the important traffic comes from Google and google gets it's resource from ODP........then in affect ODP is restricting a persons income by not indexing there website.
My question: Has the ODP had a federal incitement or a class action law suit filled on them ? say in the last year ?

I think anytime people are brought into the scheme of things, there leaves to much room for junk "literally" and this is why my website without spamming is listed in the top 10 results of every engine besides Google, wonder why ?

I am not worried about Dmoz any more, as a mater of fact after all Ive said none of you would list me anyhow.........But here is a important fact: MSN, AOL, and Gigablast engines don't talk, and don't care if i do, because they are not prejudice and are not effected by it.
This is what makes them in my book the engines with the real brains...because they are not effected by bribes, there own website rank, and the lack of editors.
If you have not had a class action law suit ...your day is coming I'm sure.

If the ODP recognizes that most the important traffic comes from Google and google gets it's resource from ODP........then in affect ODP is restricting a persons income by not indexing there website.

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Interesting premise.

Totally invalid, but intersting nonetheless.

The ODP, to my knowledge, has never taken the position that the most important traffic comes from any given site. To understand this, you must first realize the the ODP is about website content, not about traffic. Traffic plays absolutely no part in the decision to list or not list a site -- thus any speculation that Google or any other search engine traffic has any role in the listability of a site is simply a non-starter.

Further, the argument that the decision to not list a site is somehow actionable because it imacts someone's income is also a non-starter. For it to be actionable, there would have to be a contractual basis between the site owner and the ODP, and there is simply no such thing.

my website without spamming is listed in the top 10 results of every engine besides Google, wonder why ?

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Have you ever asked Google? the ODP has no real affiliation with the Google Search Engine. Google is a downstream user of our data, and that is all. We have no influence over how they use our data, just as we do not influence any other user beyond the requirement that they obey the terms of our free license.

class action suit??? Good luck with one - any lawyer will laugh you out the door.

What did you agree to when you submited your site to DMOZ?

In exchange for ODP's consideration of the site I am submitting, I agree
* To be bound by the ODP's Terms of Use.
* To waive any claim related to the inclusion, placement, exclusion, or removal of this or any other site in the ODP Directory or to the title or description of any site appearing in the ODP Directory; and

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I also acknowledge that Netscape and the ODP have unfettered editorial discretion to determine the structure and content of the
directory and that, because a site's placement in the directory is subject to change or deletion at any time, I may not rely on any aspect of a site's inclusion in the directory.

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I assume you read what you agreed to?

>....then in affect ODP is restricting a persons income by not indexing there website.

Yeah, we're like that. Do you know how many people's income I restricted today, just by DOING NOTHING! Billions! And multiply that by 70,000 ODP editors! Some of them did absolutely nothing, because they're dead or inactive. And even the most active of us restricted the income of over four billion people, by doing nothing to provide any free service to them!

But the plot goes deeper, much deeper, than that! Think of all the billions of people who've never been ODP editors -- they're restricting your income in exactly the same way I did, by doing nothing for you. And ... don't forget the people who died before the ODP was started, and are doing nothing much more naturally and systematically than I can (yet) do!

You've stumbled over the tip of the iceberg. But why pick on the ODP. There are only a few thousand of us, and it's not our plot -- the ENTIRE UNIVERSE is in on it!

And you yourself are just as guilty -- MORE guilty -- than any ODP editor. How many billions of people's incomes did you restrict today? I bet you couldn't have done much more restricting even if you were dead, too!

It's not the ODP. The UNIVERSE is out to get you. Watch your back.

lol

you see what I mean, any response added here gets a real good one back.....
and today.. MSN said: nut-in honey, did you see that commercial to ?

Did I say i was going to get a law suit started ? Mr member "kiss-up" ? did I rattle your chain ? I thought I said I did not care what they did...they are already mad at me from past post and besides that I bought 3 more domains today.

I can however tell by most the post you get in this forum the peeps have to be from a country other than the USA....nasty real nasty.

come on whats next........let me guess, bean for president ?

look back in the post

I mean, I am not saying I am without sin, however I do help peeps everyday without charge same y'all do...but look back through your post...for the most part it is just plain mean and nasty !
I don't have to, "read this forum junk" - "refer to this forum link" - "refer to that link "
you make it out like all you do is help the world, when all you do in your post is criticize..........go ahead look back.
I sleep well at night knowing I lead a person to the Lord for salvation.
and if i upset a few peeps from the ODP for telling them what my opinion is....I'll repent, ask forgiveness, and get back to work.
You get paid nut-in for what you do, I understand, but do you really think your are helping ? or are the few cumming here in discouragement not worth your efforts also ?
I have yet found a thred where you actually talked to someone like they were a person and not a problem.

Since an ODP listing is based on a website review, webmaster personality really can't affect it. And even if you study to offend all the editors within reach, you can't be guaranteed that (1) one of the editors within reach will be the editor that reviews the site, and (2) the editor would remember which of thousands of rude posts (if any!) were related to the site. In fact, the odds are strongly against it.

I can however tell by most the post you get in this forum the peeps have to be from a country other than the USA....nasty real nasty.

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Come again?

I can however tell by most the post you get in this forum the peeps have to be from a country other than the USA....nasty real nasty.

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Hi There
I can give you a friendly advice in English or in my Native Tongue. The choice is yours. I will settle for 1 right now.

Before we go to to a bigger picture of responsibility which is millions of people we go to I, Me, Myself....

If you were unemployed (hope your not) will the responsibility of having a job be on my part, your parents, your brother or sister ? It is yours and how you present yourself including your resume to the interviewer to be accepted. If accepted you might be the happiest person. You have a Job. If not, thats where improvement comes along the way. Questions on Why ? How ? Maybe work experience ? The content of my resume ? My background ? Before becoming a Crusader look in the mirror before you sleep and in the morning. Am I qualified. Am I the right one. Am I the chosen one. Am I the Man. Now, here we are in the USA, you would like to apply for a loan or car. Can I have your Social Security Number, Your Drivers License. How's your credit lately. (For Non - US Members these are the basic requirements for obtaining a loan in the USA) They run your Credit Report.
Nice Mr. X you are approved. Take Home the Money or Car. Sorry Mr. X you were declined. Your Credit Report is low and have too many discrepancies or you filed banktrupcy. They don't know you ? The decision was made in whole or in part by the credit bureau. Where do you go ? To other lenders who have high interest rates. Bottom line is "How is your Credibility" for approval.

Do I need to elaborate more ? I think you do understand.

ranks1 said:

If the ODP recognizes that most the important traffic comes from Google and google gets it's resource from ODP

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....i stopped listening here.... total nonsense

i have sites in and out of dmoz (i've even had my sites rejected from one of the categories i edit in) and they all do very well in google, (most of them come up #1 for their top search terms)

A listing in dmoz is not going to get you to #1 in google any more than a #1 spot in google is going to get you a listing in google

ranks1 said:

I am not worried about Dmoz any more, as a mater of fact after all Ive said none of you would list me anyhow.....

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So you go through all of the trouble registering to the forum, create a thread to tell us you are not worried any more, and what you think of Dmoz?

This thread seems to be more about the above than a question.

Home for lunch,

nea said: Come again?


I have yet found a thred where you actually talked to someone like they were a person and not a problem.



monayuki Said: "How is your Credibility" for approval.

yes I have a Job and it pays quite well.....My Christian websites are my spare time killer.
guess that depends on the Judge, God.... or he whom thinks he is.


martinpaling Said: ....i stopped listening here.... total nonsense


Guess If I had evan one of my 3 domains ever listed i could say " have sites in and out of dmoz " also !


sidneyj said: So you go through all of the trouble registering to the forum, create a thread to tell us you are not worried any more, and what you think of Dmoz?


Lots of people read this forum, and I wanted them to read the post here and understand that evan though you claim not to be judgemental in your listing desisions...the text speaks for it self.


I said: I have yet found a thred where you actually talked to someone like they were a person and not a problem.

and I still say it.

See, the problem is, ranks1, you don't sound like a person. You sound like a grudge with an appendix.

Scrooge ? :angel: :confuse2:

I have yet found a thred where you actually talked to someone like they were a person and not a problem.

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People tend to find what they're looking for.

Lots of people read this forum, and I wanted them to read the post here and understand that evan though you claim not to be judgemental in your listing desisions...the text speaks for it self.

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If there's text in here speaking for itself, it's speaking gibberish. We never claimed not to be judgmental -- we judge sites as listable or not listable in the ODP every day. We wouldn't be a human-edited directory if we didn't exercise judgement. But we have specific criteria that we judge against -- we don't reject sites because we don't like the colour scheme they use or the message they're putting out or the fact that their owner is a pompous ass. In the same way, how rude or polite a person is here in this forum will not affect when or if their site is reviewed or what the result of that review will be.

ranks1, I suspect there is a language barrier here since it's hard to understand what you are saying, and you don't appear to understand what we are saying either. If English is not your first language, you may want to post in one of the non-English forums here.

hutcheson Said: grudge with an appendix.

My appendix was removed at 5 years of age, must be a grudge.
Of all the editors you seem to be the more mature, whether it be age, or maturity,
however I am not sure, and whether you critique me, or scold me, I am always interested in seeing what you have put to text....No pun intended.

motsa Said: owner is a pompous ass

now on the other hand, this is a sign of lack of education, or of words. They say people try to make them selves more mature by using curse words, or slang words,
I see it as a lack of education or a welfare recipiant. same/same

Rank, much of my online work is done cooperatively, and nearly all of it is creating electronic archives of important original work; so my name is on little of it, none of it is on my own website; and the original portion of it amounts to only a few hundred lines of poetry, a few dozen pages of literary criticism, and some musical arrangements.

I doubt if any of it would interest you: it's pretty much restricted to classical and biblical studies; archaeology and ancient history; history of science, math, religion, or technology; military history; natural history; music and literature and analysis thereof.

<added>I should also mention that there are much more prolific contributors than I at all the major archives. In practice, my cooperation basically means I don't duplicate work that someone else has already done, much more often than the reverse.

nea I'm pretty sure I recognize the language this individual is "speaking" since I hear it around my house all the time. I don't think we have a forum for the "teenage gansta" language

motsa Said: owner is a pompous ass

now on the other hand, this is a sign of lack of education, or of words. They say people try to make them selves more mature by using curse words, or slang words,
I see it as a lack of education or a welfare recipiant. same/same

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Now, was that necessary? Did I call you a pompous ass? No. I merely used the words (neither of which is a curse or slang in the way that I used them, I might add) in a sentence. You really should read things more carefully. Have a dictionary handy if you need one.