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Yes, your assumption is correct.

The number in brackets includes all sites listed in that category and it's sub categories.

It does not, however, include the number of sites in @linked categories, even though the totals are displayed for them as well.

For an example
http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/United_States/Florida/Localities/A/Apalachicola/

Apalachicola (26)

Arts and Entertainment (1)
Business and Economy (5)
Education (2)
Guides and Directories (2)
Health (0)
News and Media (3)
Real Estate@ (1)
Recreation and Sports (8)
Travel and Tourism (2)
Weather (3)

Total 27

but it that is really counting the 1 site in Real Estate twice as the @link is a pointer to a sub category of Business and Economy. So the automatic counter knowss there are 26 sites , but it appears there are 27 if you add it manually and don't disregard any @links.

Related Categories ("see also" links) also have site numbers, but are not true sub categories, and so are not included in the category count

Clear as mud?
:tree:

ok the @ was getting me. I was leaving one out and counting one.......but yep clear as mud now. This is what happens from lack of sleep ; )

zombie said:

Ok now I have a question. Im going thru category that does have an editor. Im still going thru the category cause I want too However should I report anything here if I find something? I dont want to get on anyones toes.

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I'm one of the listed editors at the top of the GLB branch, and I have no problem with you going through and finding things to tidy up Unfortunately the GLB cats have been neglected by some of us lately. We sometimes have other chores that need to be done. The GLB cats are sometimes depressing to work on as well because so much spam and porn is submitted to them.

Dead Link: Maine>Auburn>Real Estate

Following category has a duplicate link (the first can be deleted, as it has old URL):

http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_Amer...es/A/Auburn/Business_and_Economy/Real_Estate/

Developers Marketing Resource
http://www.developersmarketing.com/ - This URL is old and has been replaced. The correct URL is included in the 2nd listing for this same name in this category. So, just delete the first listing.

gckorn

Got it.

Again, thank you. Much appreciated.

Dead Link: Maine>Business>Real Estate

The following category contains a dead link:

http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_Amer.../Waterville/Business_and_Economy/Real_Estate/

The listing is:

Tom Munson Realtor
http://www.tommunsonre.com/ - The site is dead. According to whois, this domain expired in January 2004 and is in "redemption period." If it is not revived by owner, it will be reregistered by someone who wants a DMOZ listing.

gckorn

Got it.

Thanks!

Dead Link: Maine>Counties>York

The following category contains a dead link:

http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/United_States/Maine/Counties/York/


Profile for York County
http://66.223.51.57/capitolimpact/gw/cntydetail.asp?state=me&stfips=23&stname=Maine&fips=23031 - Not sure where this link came from. A possible replacement is FedStats/MapStats, which in this instance (York County) would be: http://www.fedstats.gov/qf/states/23/23031.html (note that the numbers at very end of this URL happens to match the numbers in the dead URL).

gckorn
P.S. Thank you brmehlman for all your recent corrections.

Dead Links: Regional>US>NewEngland>Weather

The following category contains dead links:

http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_America/United_States/Regions/New_England/Weather/

The listings are:

National Weather Service-Boston
http://tgsv5.nws.noaa.gov/er/box/ - This link is no longer used. The link contained therein refers to the same one included in DMOZ in the listing that is just ABOVE this one, i.e., National Weather Service-Eastern Region. So, perhaps just delete this (Boston) listing.

New England Hurricane Barriers
http://www.nae.usace.army.mil/usr1/web/static/htmlfiles/hurrbarr.html - This link is dead. Could not find an exact replacement. You might just try http://www.nae.usace.army.mil (which is the Army Corps of Engineers site for the New England region) and then state, in the description, that one can search for hurricane barrier documents within (though even some of the documents found in a search return 404 errors).

gckorn

#348 done, and thank you.

Dead Link: Maine>York>Economy>Real Estate

The following category contains a dead link:

http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_Amer...ties/Y/York/Business_and_Economy/Real_Estate/

The dead listing is:

Greg Gosselin-RE/MAX Realty One
http://www.realtor.com/iLead/default.asp?mls=maine&aid=22327 - This URL is dead. Research on the internet shows a live link, which could be used in its place: http://www.seacoastregionproperties.com/ggosselin_home.html

gckorn

Dead Link

The following category contains a dead link that is listed as an "expired DMOZ domain" on a recently-expired domains site. It has already been reregistered (probably on March 21, given the March 21, 2005 expiration date):

http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Web_Design_and_Development/Designers/Full_Service/K/

The listing is:

Kutting Edge Grafix, Inc.
http://www.kuttingedgegrafix.com/ - The link does not return a live page.

gckorn

Both done thanks

Dead Link (noted as DMOZ-avail domain on site that lists expired domains)

The following category contains a dead link, noted as available for registration as a DMOZ-listed site:

http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_Amer...ty_and_Culture/Religion/Christianity/Baptist/

The listing is:

St. John's Missionary Baptist Church
http://www.stjohnsmbc.org/ - The link is dead at the moment, but will doubtless be picked up by someone.

gckorn
P.S. #349 is still open.

Dead Link (listed as available DMOZ-listed site on recently expired domains list)

The following category contains a link that is listed as recently expired DMOZ, but is obviously now active. Since cannot read the langauge, not sure if the new content matches the old listing:

http://dmoz.org/World/Français/Régi...Commerce_et_économie/Arts_et_divertissements/

The listing is:

Péniche du Quai de la Gare
http://www.locationsalle-peniche.org/ - This domain was just recreated on March 23, 2004, so it is fairly clearly a reregistration of an expired DMOZ-listed domain.

gckorn

Hello,

Well, the site is still about an on-board restaurant on the Seine.

I changed the name (it's now Quai de Seine), but it looks very legit otherwise.

Txs for your help.

#349 and #354 are done now. I believe that brings this thread up to date as of this post.

Multiple Listings & Dead Links

Several issues in the following category:

http://dmoz.org/Home/Cooking/Fish_and_Seafood/Shellfish/Lobster/

First, the following just doesn't seem right. One entity, The Recipe Box, has eleven (11) different listings in just one category. To be sure, each of the 11 different listings goes to a different page of the site, but I've not seen this elsewhere on DMOZ (even with "topics" submitted to a central site by multiple users). It would appear more appropriate to include one listing with reference to the fact that this entity has numerous lobster recipes. But wait, there is more:

A DMOZ search shows that there are in fact 569 different DMOZ listings for www.therecipebox.com.

Couldn't (and shouldn't) there be just one entry for this collection of recipes, perhaps in the following category:

http://www.dmoz.org/Home/Cooking/Recipe_Collections/ This certainly seems the most appropriate consolidated topic. (For example, www.anywherebutinthekitchen.com has "over 1,000" recipes, but just 3 total DMOZ listings, including the one in this consolidated category that references its very many recipes).

Anyway, in just this single lobster category, here are the 11:

Barbecued Lobster Tails
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/seafood/sea0124.htm

Boiled and/or Broiled Lobster
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/seafood/sea0135.htm

Boiled Lobsters
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/seafood/sea0102.htm

Braised White Wine Lobster
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/seafood/sea0134.htm

Buttery Lobster Tails
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/seafood/sea0104.htm

Lobster American-Style
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/seafood/sea0100.htm

Lobster Gaspesian-Style
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/seafood/sea0010.htm

Lobster Lincoln
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/seafood/sea0051.htm

Lobster Shells
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/seafood/sea0048.htm

Lobster Tails and Clarified Butter
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/seafood/sea0103.htm

Newburg-Style Lobster
http://www.therecipebox.com/members/box/seafood/sea0101.htm

In addition to the above multiple listing issue, the following are dead links in this category:

Lobster Newburg
http://www.linkline.com/personal/gingen/fish/newburg.htm

Lobster Recipes
http://www.mainelobsterdirect.com/recipe/

New England Lobster Quiche
http://www.linkline.com/personal/gingen/fish/newen.htm

gckorn
P.S. If 569 listings is in fact not appropriate, please advise and I'll volunteer to go through them all to point them out for removal.

You've noticed that we sometimes take these out of order. Going in order has the advantage of making things easier to track but sometimes special skills are needed, like an ability to read French (you just saw that happen) or ...

The recipe categories have guidelines that I'm not at all familiar with. If nobody deals with this one before it scrolls too far down, I'll cry for help.

569 Recipe Listings

Dear brmehlman -

Thanks for looking at this! I don't see any recipe-specific editorial guidelines either, but this has been an opportunity to pour over the editorial guidelines (which I much enjoyed).

I noticed that these guidelines would seem to highly disfavor the practice of deep- and multi-links. In the general category for recipes, this seems to be the rule as well (but with a couple of exceptions that do seem out of place and in fact highlight the general rule . . . see my p.s. below).

http://dmoz.org/guidelines/site-specific.html#deeplinks
Deeplinking URLs: Deeplinking is the process of adding links to sub-pages and sub-domains within a site. General Rule: In the vast majority of categories and branches, deeplinking is the exception rather than the rule

http://dmoz.org/guidelines/site-specific.html#multiple
Multiple Listings of an URL: Most sites will fit perfectly into one category. ODP categories are specialized enough so that in most cases you should not list a site more than once. If a site offers many different things, it should be listed in a more general category as opposed to listing it many specialized subcategories. A site must be directly relevant to the scope of the category in which you are listing a site. Consult category charters to determine a category's topical scope. For example, if you have a site on US History covering the American Revolution, the Civil War, and the Presidents, you should not list it in each one of those subcategories, but rather list it in a general category such as Society/History/By_Region/North_America/United_States/ . . . multiple listings should be the exception, not the rule

gckorn
P.S. Here are the number of DMOZ listings for some others in the general recipe category:

AbsoluteRecipes - 10 listings for this collection of recipes.
AllChefsRecipes - 1 listing for this database of recipes.
AllRecipes - 238 listings for this collection of recipes.
AmericanSchoolFoodServiceOrg - 3 listings for this school recipe org.
AmyGale'sRecipeIndex - 1 listing (I think) for this collection of recipes.
AnneMaree'sRecipeCollection - 1 listing
AnywhereButInTheKitchen - 3 listings for the extensive collection of recipes.
ArconiatsKitchen - 1 listing (I think) for the collection of recipes.
ArielsRecipeArchives - 1 listing for this "very large" archive of recipes.
TheArtisan - 1 listing for this collection of recipes.
AssociationforDressing&Sauces - A dead link.
AViewofAmericaRecipes - 1 listing for this american recipe collection.
AwesomeChefRecipes - 1 listing.
BareIngredients - 1 listing (in a general search, but I know I've seen others).
BarlowsRecipes - 1 listing.
etc.

Perhaps what might be happening is that a few site owners are submitting deep-links to different editors in vastly different categories. Not knowing of the general category link, the editors add the deep links. This is just a guess, but seems plausible.