status of http://www.Buy-Your-Dream-Home.com

Hi, folks! Just wanted to check the status of my site that i submitted over 2 months ago....I know you folks can be real busy at times and I was attempting to be patient with the process....Btw, I have an idea, I think DMOZ should charge money for *express submissions* similar to yahoo. The DMOZ editors and the DMOZ organization would than split the submission fee profits...Just an idear I feel this idea would make editors more eager to review submissions and would make it more worth their while.

I thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation into this matter


I am pretty sure i submitted it to:


http://dmoz.org/Business/ main category and it was the Real Estate > Agent sub directories i am pretty sure, but, than again it was quite awhile ago :S

Real estate agents and agencies only belong in one place: within regional, in the locality where the office is physically located.

Determine your office address, find the matching locality, submit to the real estate subcategory under business and economy. There may or may not be subcats under Real estate, if so, find and use the appropriate one.

Then, return to this thread no sooner than one month after you make that single submssion, and do the clickable link thing again with the new cateogry and we will take a peek.

spectregunner,

i found the actual category that i submitted to way back in march

http://dmoz.org/Regional/North_Amer.../Pittsburgh/Business_and_Economy/Real_Estate/

If you could be a gent and take a peek to see if im still in consideration it would be much appreciated

thanks

We flat don't do webmaster services. Not for free, not for any money.

Hence there's no point in taking money to expedite what we wouldn't have done anyway.

I'm trying to figure out what's going on with this domain. It looks unlistable, but not for the same reason it was allegedly unlistable before. How long have you had it?

Why does this site look the same? http://www.chesapeakestreet.com/

and what is your relationship to these?

http://www.howardhannarealestaterealtypittsburghrealtorrealitylistingpa.com/
http://www.412-901-2285.com/
http://wwww.audreyanderic.com
http://howardhanna.com/

Ah, you peered deeper into the millstone than I did. Yeah, that agency is already listed under a different URL.

Yes indeed - and for those who don't get the message here - this situation is covered by http://www.dmoz.org/add.html

Do not submit URLs that contain only the same or similar content as other sites you may have listed in the directory. Sites with overlapping and repetitive content are not helpful to users of the directory. Multiple submissions of the same or related sites may result in the exclusion and/or deletion of those and all affiliated sites.

So when Eric at extension 241 and Audrey at extension 222 - have numerous mirrored sites, and submit those sites to the same category where the mother load site has already been listed - they may find unwelcome results.

with all due respect folks, we are developing each of those other sites individually and WE HAVE NOT, i repeat, WE HAVE NEVER submitted any of the other sites before - I am very aware of the mirror rules through dmoz and I would never ever think to goop up the editiorial process with a bunch of mirrors........the other sites referenced in the main site, www.Buy-Your-Dream-Home.com are all going to be individually developed and ONLY WHEN they are complete and are new sites to themselves will they EVER BE CONSIDERED for submittal to dmoz. None of my sites have been submitted to dmoz before, except maybe chesapeakestreet.com which we had to abandon when my team switched brokerage houses...so if that one does exist (which it doesnt because i already checked), it needs to be removed and the new and improved www.Buy-Your-Dream-Home.com needs to take it's place. Thanks again and please understand that i am not attempting to circumvent any of the rules you folks have in place, i am merely attempting to get my website: http://www.buy-your-dream-home.com listed where it belongs.

i have had buy-your-dream-home.com for well over 4 years now.....if it appears unlistable, than please brief me on the reasons why it wouldnt be.....my team has already located about 30 other sites within your real estate directory that is very similar to ours...only difference is these other sites are clearly aimed at affiliates or to sell leads to REALTORS and brokers....we ARE THE REALTOR/BROKER and we maintain that only REALTOR/BROKER sites should ever be allowable in the dmoz directory for Real Estate Agents. We are legally licensed in the state of PA

bob,

i was unable to locate chesapeakestreet.com in your directory.....as mentioned before, that site was in operation when my team was part of howard hanna....it no longer is...but, if you are telling me that chesapeakestreet.com is currently in the dmoz directory, we will simply retool that site and the new submission can be ignored. I will eagerly await a response

Actually, it's one of the other ones that is listed. If an editor can go to the listed URL and verify that the proper current URL would be something different (which isn't true yet), then you could put in an "Update URL" suggestion.

Obviously, given any choice at all, WE'LL skip the keyword-stuffed domain and go straight for the domain name that looks like the real company name. If there are too many different company names floating around, we're likely to do the same thing any intelligent surfer would: that is, figure the whole thing is a scam (and therefore not list any of them.)

Several but not all of those URL's have been submiited and rejected. I believe there were other URL's that were also submitted. At this point you have built such a tangled web of many URL's to check, I got tired of looking.

The good news is that I don't edit any of the affected categories - so I don't have to deal with the issue.

Personally I find your whole setup very questionable - since despite your denial of relationship to Howard Hanna - I presume you removed that from your site in the the very recent past - since Google gives me

The Creative Edge Realty & Technology Team of Howard Hanna are proud to present the following featured properties for your viewing pleasure....this slide show ...


The bad news is that you will have to convince someone else that you are no longer related to the single listed site, and since there is a bad and messy history - you will have to work hard at it.

OK, at this point, based on the conversation and discoveries to date, trust is a major hurdle for you to overcome.

I think the only way you can earn back some of our trust is through absolute, full disclosure.

Please give us a list of every domain you are associated with, and we will investigate. It will take a bit of time, but we will determine what the appropriate course of action is with regards to your collection of domains.

I can't think of any better way for this to be clarified.

As to lead generation sites, I quite agree with you that they shouldn't be listed. Hie thee over to our "Abuse" forum, and post the category and the site title. We'll check them out -- and if you're right, we'll toss them out.

As to the Hanna-Barbara hall of mirrors phenomenon, it really doesn't matter whether you submit all of them or not. Just their presence on the internet gives your whole enterprise a layer of sleaze that you can't talk your way out of. And remember, we don't just look at submitted sites; we don't just look at listed sites when we're checking unique content; and ... your competitor could even submit your doorways to -- well, not to make you look bad, but to bring to our attention how bad you'd already made yourself look. (The latter is exceedingly rare; I do not suspect it in this case. And, in any case, it's not that submittals make you look bad. MIRRORS make you look bad. And there you are the culpable party.

you know i really do not appreciate the tone and holier than thou attitude that many are exhibiting to me. I still stick by my claim that i have NEVER EVER EVER had any of my sites listed in your directory PERIOD... and i really do not appreciate the tone that some of you are exhibiting to me....I am a REAL REALTOR not someone looking to grow riches from affiliate linking and such and i resent that characterization...I have an actual license with PA and I am a member of the REALTOR board. I simply came in here to merely ask what my submission status is and I receive all of this nasty chatter My site does not violate any of the suggested terms of dmoz and I once again maintain that NONE of my sites are listed in DMOZ and never have been to the best of my knowledge. I believe some of you are jumping on me because you probably have alot of people on these boards trying to scam or spam the search engine results. This is not me and I resent such implications - further I would mind my libelous remarks about ones character in the future, as many of you probably understand and know, there is NO annonymity on the internet and some of you making comments like this to me as representatives of dmoz.org/netscape can and will place you on dangerous/contentious grounds. I do not hide behind smoke and mirrors as many of you seem to enjoy. You may call me directly at the phone numbers posted on my website and if you wish you can speak to me directly at my home office. I am very upset and wish to speak to the managers of dmoz.org, please direct me.

You should have tried telling the truth first.

I guess that means you aren't going to provide us with a list?

MatrixViper.

Let me try to make an attempt to sort this out....

We are very strict in how Real Estate businesses are listed. It doesn't matter how many sites you have - that is your business, and how surfers react to the fact that you have that many is up to them, not to us. The ODP will list at most one of them. Your business appears to already have a site listed. The most we will consider doing is to change that listing to another URL.

To us, not knowing you, it looks like you are attempting to get multiple listings for the same business by submitting multiple sites. This is a big no-no for us, and turns editors very very cautious.

The best way for you cause editors to have more ease-of-mind in listing your site would be if you were to provide us here with a complete list of domains and sites which your business owns.

In terms of the "managers of dmoz", from an editing perspective they are all part of the volunteer editing force. If you believe that there has been editor abuse, you are welcome to file an abuse complaint overs at dmoz.org

This forum, however, is not an official part of the ODP - it is a forum run by a small group of volunteer editors.

If you wish to escalate into legal action, then you will need to contact the legal staff at AOL, the owners of the directory. once you do this, the volunteer editors will not be allowed to have any further contact with you until the legal side of the issue has been resolved.

I hope this explains your options from this point on.

please tell me where you feel i have been deceitful? you seem to be obviously misled in your belief that i am some sort of odp spamming monster - you are very very wrong if that is your perception - I will ask that you no longer use character assassinations (calling me sleazy) in posts in which you converse with me, because that WILL definitely land you in hot water with me. I have been nothing but nice to you folks and i ask that same courtesy is returned.