Status of http://www.isprank.com

brmehlman

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Awaiting review in that category, along with not too terribly many other sites. If you haven't seen it listed within a few months, feel free to ask again. If you ask, please use this thread rather than starting another one.
 
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Hi friend,

We have now (as I'm sure you can see) waited over 3 months for our listing to be added to the directory. Not that we are in any position to tell you guys how to do your job (as this is a FREE service, that we are very appreciative of) we are desperatly seeking to be recognized in the category we represent. We have been patiently waiting this long, if someone can reply to our inquiry after a matter of minutes, can someone there at DMOZ please look into the insertion of our link? After all we have waiting patiently this long (over 3 months) are in a relevant category, and sure could use some interested eyeballs being forwarded to our site as a result of your listing <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" /> .

Thank you!
Adam
ISPRANK.com
 

kokopeli

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In some categories, sites have waited a year for inclusion (or longer). As you state above, editors are volunteer...some categories have less interest in them and take longer to have a site listed. The purpose of this forum is not to allow sites to jump ahead of others who have been waiting patiently longer, it is to allow the public to know where they are in the process. In addition, editors edit where they have knowledge. While I could technically edit in the category you submitted to, I wouldn't do so...just like an editor familiar with that category may not be comfortable editing where I usually edit.
 
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it is to allow the public to know where they are in the process.

Yikes how far along in the process are we? Any insight would be greatly appreciated and would help our impatient team <img src="/images/icons/tongue.gif" alt="" /> . I understand that you can review our site for addition (despite your non-familiarity with our unique category). [No sarcasm please. Thanks - apeuro]
 

brmehlman

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In the second post of this thread I wrote "If you haven't seen it listed within a few months, feel free to ask again."

Did I fail to make my meaning clear?
 
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I'm sorry you interpreted my comment that way. We appreciate the hard work you put into the directory and are only offering our own assistance to you (or whomever) to help forward the effort at a faster pace as we eagerly await our listing on DMOZ.

Thank you for looking into my initial inquiry and your prompt reply.

Ryan
 

Alucard

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You have done all you can - you have made a single submission to the most appropriate category. You will have to be patient, I'm afraid.
 

apeuro

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We appreciate the hard work you put into the directory and are only offering our own assistance to you (or whomever) to help forward the effort at a faster pace as we eagerly await our listing on DMOZ.

Then volunteer to edit that category. That's the only type of assistance we accept.
 

kokopeli

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I applied already last night immediatly after my last post . Would somone kindly review my application for becoming an editor?
All in time isprank <img src="/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" /> the meta editors who approve applications are volunteer and there are other apps waiting also.
 
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Dear Ryan Skinner,

Thank you for your interest in becoming an Open Directory Project editor.
After careful review, we have decided not to approve your application at
this time. The most common reasons a reviewer will deny a new application
include, but are not limited to,

* Incomplete application. Insufficient information has been provided in some
fields including reason, affiliation and/or Sample URLs.
* Improper spelling and grammar.
* Sample URLs are inappropriate for the category which one has applied to
edit. They may be too broad, too narrow, completely out of scope, poor
quality, or in a language inappropriate for the category. All non-English
sites are listed in the World category. Applications for World categories
that include sites only in English will be denied. Likewise, applications
for World categories that include sample URLs in languages other than the one
appropriate for the applied category will be denied.
* Not properly disclosing affiliations with websites that are, or have the
potential of being, listed in the category.
* Titles and descriptions of sample URLs (and other information provided)
were subjective and promotional rather than unbiased and objective. ODP
editors do not rank or write website reviews. ODP editors provide objective
and unbiased descriptions of websites and their content.
* Self-Promotion. Application which leads us to believe that the candidate is
interested primarily in promoting his/her own sites or those with which the
applicant is affiliated. The ODP is not a marketing tool, and should not be
used to circumvent the site submission process. If this is an applicant's
motivation for joining, then we ask him/her not to apply. Editors found to be
inappropriately promoting their own site will be promptly removed.

This is just silly, I with my experience, background, and interest I cant believe I have been again declined an editor position. Not only that but this is obviously a category in which the current editor has either quit or has lost all interest in. I have tried everything you guys, now what must I do besides wait? I really would have made a great contribution to this particular category had I been considered... I am very confused by DMOZ and almost see it as a private member site only, rather than a directory interested in growth, updates, and new blood.

Not that it matters but I'm even an editor on www.zeal.com (moderating the LookSmart Directory...)
 

windharp

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One or several of the reasons in the message applied. We can't tell you which one, since we dont know your application. We do like good new editors, but we dislike the bad ones. The listing names some of the most likely reasons an editor is a bad one.
 

donaldb

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Were there any comments from the meta editor following the section that you have posted? Often a meta will add specific comments as to why they are rejecting the application which would give you some more insight into the reasons why.
 

Oooooooo a Zeal editor! How can we reject you if Zeal accepted you? Shame on us.
 

Alucard

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There is a serious message there - Zeal is not the ODP and vice versa - we have very different criteria for editing. The best advice I can give you is to follow the advice you've been given... if you want to try to apply again, re-read the guidelines and what is expected. We are always looking for good non-self-serving editors.

If you do not wish to reapply, then I wish you luck in your future endeavours.

Since this topic has drifted significantly from that of the status of submission on this URL, I suggest we move the discussion elsewhere, if necessary.
 

Alucard

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Two weeks ago you were told "If you haven't seen it listed within a few months, feel free to ask again."

The reason for that was that there is very little likelihood of the situation changing in a short time.
 
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CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!

I see a TOTAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST regarding the lack of placement of our account. We recently did a lookup on the editor for the category we are despertatly attempting to submit our selves to and found out that is is moderated by our competition!! I didnt think you could become an editor of a category you have a personal business interest in!! This is completely unfair to us, as we are a simple directory like the other directories yet are denied access to a listing simply because our compedator controls that category. Could someone who is non affiliated with a ISP Directory please review our listing and submit it if approved? Or at least investigate my claim? The editor in question is listed below. He runs [url removed] a direct compedator to www.isprank.com you will see his name in the forums section as the Administrator. Please we have patiently waited a very long time for a Dmoz listing, and are anticipating our listing as a refreshing resource for online viewers to the Dmoz Directory. The editors info is listed below:

[editor details removed]

Thank you!!
ISPRANK.com

[specific editor details removed - motsa]
 

Alucard

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Re: CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!

Let me see if I can dispel a couple of assumptions that you have made in your post, in the hope that it helps.

Nobody has denied access to your site. It awaits review. Noone has taken any action on it yet.

And noone controls a category - any named editor in a category above, plus any meta or editall can edit in the category. This is VERY important to understand.

And the category to which you submitted the site has no editor - the editor you name is no longer an ODP editor.
 
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