status of http://www.solomonoutfitters.com

hutcheson

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Three "duplicate" submittals have been deleted recently, some from the category you mention. There is apparently one left somewhere, but not in that category. (I don't have an easy way of tracking down which category it is; but probably not Shopping/Recreation/Outdoors/Hunting/Clothing or Shopping/Recreation/Outdoors . Can you recall anywhere ELSE you might have submitted? (The history is long and complex; it is possible that you may never have submitted directly to Shopping/Recreation/Outdoors .)
 

lsolomon

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I originally submitted to http://www.dmoz.org/Shopping/Recreation/Outdoors/Clothing/

I was told by Spectregunner:
>>Go ahead and resubmit one more time to the single best category. You may reference this thread in the description and no one will hold the additional submission against you.

So, I submitted to http://www.dmoz.org/Shopping/Recreation/Outdoors/Clothing/ again but was sent to http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Recreation/Outdoors/Hunting/ which, I suppose, is just fine with me.

With all due respect, what would cause this to take a year and a half? I'm trying to figure out where I screwed up so badly.
 

bobrat

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Why assume you did anything wrong? At this point no one has rejected your sites, it's just that no-one has reviewed it and accepted it. It's just that you have an expectation that a year and half is too long.

You might note How long until my site will be reviewed? which would give you a more realistic point of view.

I understand that it's frustrating waiting when you don't know how long and have a false expectation, I waited to pick up window blinds today, and it was indicated to me there was one person ahead of me, after waiting half an hour with 4 people served ahead of me I gave up and walked out.

But with ODP, there is no line up, there is no indication how many people are ahead of you, because it does not work on that concept. People make suggestions of sites, which may be processed in any order, and that could be 10 minutes from now, or never.

There could be many reaons why your site was not reviewed and published yet.

An editor could have looked at it, and found it had some minor problem, but he decided not to reject it, but also not to publish it at this time. Sometimes sites are not so easy to review, they may have content that crosses categories.

There could be 2000 other sites waiting to be reviewed, and the editor has not got to it yet.

There could be no other sites waiting to be reviewed, but no editor is interested in reviewing Outdoor Clothing sites.
 

lsolomon

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Howdy,
I originally submitted my site about 19 months ago. My site was accepted and listed - DMOZ crashed soon thereafter and my site hasn't been added since. I thought the story bore retelling.

Please don't take the following as griping, I just don't know how to put it to words. This is probably too much to ask, but could the editor please tell me why it is taking 19 months. Or, tell me what I can do. I mean this with all respect. I would simply feel better if someone would say, "there is no editor for your category" or "your site is just plain bad". It can't possibly be as bad as some of these existing dmoz sites:
http://www.adventurecatalog.com/
http://www.sportsannex.com/
http://www.coreoutdoor.com/

Anyhow, I don't like to gripe. I like to fix or help. So, if there is anything I can do, please let me know.


Thanks,
Lynn
 

bobrat

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I though a gave a fairly detailed explanation. What's missing?

No one has rejected your site.

As stated above, some editors did spend time getting rid of you duplicate submissions, but they would not have reviewed the site.

One or more editors might have looked at your site, and not been impressed enough to immediately list it, but that's total speculation, ther is no way of knowing that.

Since everyone works when they want, and reviews sites in the order they want, it's entirely possible that nobody will ever review your site, and nothing can be done about that.

If no editor today is interested in editing outdoor clothing, then your site will not be reviewed. If an editor suddenly gets interested tonight, and decides to work through that category, then it could be reviewed tonight. There is no way of knowing that.
 

lsolomon

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2 years and counting

Howdy!

A little over two years ago, I submitted this site. It was quickly accepted. DMOZ crashed. When DMOZ came back up my site was gone. Since then, I've written every couple months just to check and see if my site has fallen off the list or is just waiting to be reviewed. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Lynn
 

arubin

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See below. I'm leaving this post intact, except for the note I have something more to say.

1. You're lying. (You've been told you were mistaken more than once -- at this point, you're lying.) Your site was never listed in http://dmoz.org/ . Perhaps it will be, some day.

2. Over the past 20 months, 4 copies of your submission were deleted from various categories within http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Recreation .

3. On August 14, 2004, djdeeds (post 21) said one copy was waiting for review in http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Recreation/Outdoors/Hunting , and hutcheson (post 22) said there was one copy waiting somewhere.

4. There has been no change in status of any of your suggestions since then.

5. This constitutes a status report, so you may ask again in 6 months on November 2. (I don't think either post 24 or post 26 constitutes a status report -- if it does, a moderator will delete points 4 and 5 of this message.)
 

oneeye

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In the last 3 years and in the course of 20,000+ edits I have only come across one case where a site has been listed once and disappeared along with the entire history of it ever having been listed. Given the number of categories the site has been suggested to it would not be possible to check the editing logs for all of those to find out whether you are the second person this has happened to. It is highly unlikely - a 1 in 10,000 chance but not completely impossible.

But the point is: stop submitting, the site has been received. One day when an editor takes an interest they will review the site and make a decision.
 

arubin

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I apologize for calling the original poster a liar back in post #28. It's possible he was mistaken, and it's possible we were mistaken.

It's just that I don't really see the point of his repeating his claims when many of us have stated we have seen no evidence to support them. (BTW, the "wayback machine" at http://www.archive.org seems to have been actively indexing DMOZ since sometime in 1999, so that if the poster knows the exact category and approximate time the site was listed, it should be possible to verify.)
 

lsolomon

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It's my understanding that anyone can suggest a site. Could it be that the system worked and someone besides myself suggested the site?
As for being called a liar. I hate to dignify the comment with a response. But here's the truth. I submitted the site. About four weeks later (I checked every day) my site appeared. I went out to DMOZ the next day and the whole thing was comepletely down. I checked every day for a couple of days and DMOZ was comepletely down. When it finally came back up, my site was gone. I resubmitted because it appeared to be the obvious thing to do at that point, figuring DMOZ restored from a backup that didn't include my site. I wrote in a couple times and was told to resubmit. I resubmitted. Those are the only three submissions I've made. Call me a liar if you wish. But these are the facts.
 

arubin

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I think I remember that crash. I didn't think any sites actually appeared during that time, as any of my attempts to publish caused the listing to be deleted. But, nonetheless, your site is still waiting somewhere for review, as has been noted in my message 28 and in message 29.
 
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