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I originally submitted my site to DMOZ two years ago with my site www.wespreadtheword.net and have waited patiently. My site is submitted to the correct category and follows some of the same sites listed. The website does meet the guidelines but I was wondering exactly how long it takes? I have not seen anything added or taken away from this category whatsoever in the two years I've waited.
 
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motsa said:
It can take anywhere from minutes to years.
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So basically DMOZ is no longer a relatively efficient, and productive directory anymore. It's sad to fully see that considering the abandoned directories and and infinite wait times.
 
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It's efficient and productive -- the category you want your site listed in may not be but the directory as a whole grows daily.
 
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WeSpreadTheWord said:
So basically DMOZ is no longer a relatively efficient, and productive directory anymore. It's sad to fully see that considering the abandoned directories and and infinite wait times.
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Actually the issue isn't productivity at all, as motsa mentioned the directory itself grows daily. It is a misunderstanding unfortunately. Public suggestions of sites are just 1 small and often unproductive resource editors use to find quality sites to be listed in the directory. By suggesting the site you have helped an editor to find it a little easier (thank you) but when an editor has a chance to review the suggestion is unpredictable due to the volunteer nature of the directory.

Hope that helps clarify.
 
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shadow575 said:
Actually the issue isn't productivity, it is a misunderstanding unfortunately. Public suggestions of sites are just 1 small and often unproductive resource editors use to find quality sites to be listed in the directory. By suggesting the site you have helped an editor to find it a little easier (thank you) but when an editor has a chance to review the suggestion is unpredictable due to the volunteer nature of the directory.

Hope that helps clarify.
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I would say that the issue with volunteers is one issue but at the same time I know some that volunteered to edit the same category I submitted to and was told that it's currently too backlogged to put her on it. Now if the powers that be know certain categories are really bad and they people specifically interested in those allow them to it or if they will not they should hope on it and clean it up. But I still feel that DMOZ has fallen by the wayside when compared to any of the other engines.
 
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I would say that the issue with volunteers is one issue but at the same time I know some that volunteered to edit the same category I submitted to and was told that it's currently too backlogged to put her on it. Now if the powers that be know certain categories are really bad and they people specifically interested in those allow them to it or if they will not they should hope on it and clean it up. But I still feel that DMOZ has fallen by the wayside when compared to any of the other engines.
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More than likely they were actually told that the category was too big or two spammy for a new editor. A new editor isn't likely to accepted to a large category with many listings and/or unreviewed sites, nor are they likely to be accepted to a particulary spammy category. There is a general letter that is sent with rejected applications that lists all of the most common reasons that an application get rejected, often times people who receive that letter don't actually read through all the reasons to fully understand why the application was rejected and it leads to some confusion such as this one.

Another misunderstanding that you are apparently under: dmoz.org is not a search engine or a listing service. Search engines use the directory data to aid in their results but compaing dmoz.org to a search engine that utilizes some or all of its data isn't going to be very useful.
 
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shadow575 said:
More than likely they were actually told that the category was too big or two spammy for a new editor. A new editor isn't likely to accepted to a large category with many listings and/or unreviewed sites, nor are they likely to be accepted to a particulary spammy category. There is a general letter that is sent with rejected applications that lists all of the most common reasons that an application get rejected, often times people who receive that letter don't actually read through all the reasons to fully understand why the application was rejected and it leads to some confusion such as this one.
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No address to the fact that the editors know a category is backed up and chose to ignore it?
 
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Editors work when and where they want to work. The amount of suggestions sitting in a pile in one category or another typically doesn't affect where and when editors work.
 
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Some categories being no longer relevant is a far different thing than the entire directory being no longer relevant.
 
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Some categories being no longer relevant is a far different thing than the entire directory being no longer relevant.
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With many categories falling into this category I'd say it makes it not relevant as a directory. Compare this how many active editors you have vs the number of categories you have. I'd say the numbers would be against the editors.
 
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It's like seeing a dead bee at the side of the road, and saying it's too bad there is no more honey available.
 
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The ODP does not need to be relevant to webmasters only to its users.

One could argue that the ODP reflects how relevant a category is to information seekers - the more it is, the more likely it is to attract people of the right calibre to volunteer to work in it. The content of the ODP is determined by the results of the efforts of community of individuals each contributing what they believe is relevant to surfers. They chose which categories to work in.

:) If the ODP is not relevant because it does not list sites a, b, c, d, etc... then all directories are irrelevant but, due to sheer size, the ODP is the least irrelevant!;)
 
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Don't confuse "relevant" and "up-to-date". Two completely different concepts: two completely different concepts. You want up-to-date, you read a newspaper: you want relevant, go to a library. Think of the ODP as more like a library card catalog than a newspaper index.
 
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Don't confuse "relevant" and "up-to-date". Two completely different concepts: two completely different concepts. You want up-to-date, you read a newspaper: you want relevant, go to a library. Think of the ODP as more like a library card catalog than a newspaper index.
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A card catalog that has gaps and holes in it. Not how a library is. DMOZ loses relevancy because it's out of date. How is DMOZ better currently than Yahoo!, MSN or Google?
 
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My experience with libraries has been somewhat different than yours. Maybe it's just me that keeps running into the cracks in the catalog. Maybe Interlibrary Loan was invented just for me. But it never before occurred to me to think that: I always just assumed everyone else knew about SOME of the cracks.

As for comparing the ODP to other directories, both the general-purpose and the niche ones, both the heavily-commercialized and the hobbyist ones -- there's no need for us to do that here. You have net access: use whichever ones best suit you. It's like libraries: some people are content with two books provided one of them hasn't been colored in yet -- and more choices make them nervous; others will read anything so long as they don't completely understand it, and want something different every few minutes.
 
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msseo.com review

Gentlemen

I have submitted my site <URL omitted> in <category omitted>

I am the owner of the firm and new to DMOZ. Thus would like to have your expert opinion whether the directory selection is appropriate.

Thank You all.
 
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