Submission Status - http://knowbe.com

Hello !

I had submitted the above site in the category http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Searching/Directories/Family_Friendly/ a few days back.

Would you kindly let me know the present status of this submission ?

Regards,


James.

It's the only site in that category that is waiting for a review by an editor.

Oh, really ? That is great, and thanks for the info ... Neil, does that mean the review would take place at any moment ?

Regards,


James.

Yes, it could take place at, quite literally, any moment. I would like to think that will be within the next few weeks, but we cannot make any guarantees.

That is fine, Neil ....

Hi all,

A few months ago, I was told that this site was the only one in the category waiting for a review. What would be the current position ? Any info would be appreciated.

Regards,

We no longer release that information simply because, as you have found out, being the only one (or even one in a pile of a hundred or more) in a category does not give any true indication of how long it may take for an editor to come along and perform the review. It could still be today or it could be many months or more.

If you would like a fresh status request you may do so in your original thread: http://resource-zone.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7988

Would you kindly let me know the present status of this submission ?

Regards,

See, here's one of the reasons we stopped giving out information about how many other sites were waiting review in a category....

Your site still awaits editorial review.

A question - the site was not added by a regular submission - instead it was added by an editor. Are you an editor? If so, PM me and I can let you know how you can find out the status of the site yourself, using the editor's tools.

Thanks.

Hello Alucard,

Thanks for the response ... being open and transparent has its own advantages and disadvantages ... though I always feel the advantages override the disadvantages. But, then, the choice is yours and you may well do it according to accepted principles in ODP.

Honestly, after submission of a few sites and after reading the feedback in various fora about ODP, I am not nursing any hope of any immediate review or any review in the short term ... though, some times I have felt that the reasons adduced for not reviewing now or before will not stand the test of time. But, then, again, you are all volunteers and ODP is a voluntary organization and therefore, like in all voluntary orgnizations, no one can or should demand that anything be done at all, within any particular time frame.

The site was submitted by me personally. As far as I know, I am not an editor. I had applied once for being an editor, of which I never heard anything from ODP. Unless I have been made an editor without any intimation to me, I don't see how it has changed to "submitted by an editor" entry at this point of time.

Regards,


James.

Hello Alucard,

A small doubt. How many times would a site be visited before it will actually be reviewed ? Just once or more times ? Is there any set procedure for this or is it left to the editor concerned ?

Regards,

It's going to depend on the editor and the site. Sometimes I will do a quick check on a site to make sure it's in the right category, and is basically ok, this way I can send it on the the correct category if it's misplaced. Sometimes, sites need extra thought before listing if there is some doubt about whether they are listable, in which case, I will put it back in unreviewed till later. Occasionaly for some categories, I will go through all the unreviewed and ensure that a second copy of the sites has been sent to the appopriate place in Regional. The bottom line is it's not predictable.

Thank you, Bobrat .... what you said seems to be a natural way of doing it .. but what would be the inference if a site is viewed say 5, 6, 7 times (and or more) and yet, it is not reviewed ?

Does that unfortunately mean that the site is being tossed upon to another editor or category by all those who view it ?

Regards,

Probably means that a number of different editors have gone through the category unreviewed weeding out duplicate submissions, deeplink spam, non-english language sites, etc. In other words, they are finding the obvious exclusions to the category to keep out the junk for when an editor with an interest in listing sites comes around - by doing that, hopefully they won't be discouraged by all the spam and crap. That is just a guess though.

Another reason that a site might get looked at by editors is because of your status requests here, of course.

Thanks thehelper .... if what you guessed is what is happening, if the site was not eligible to be included for any reason, wouldn't it get deleted by the 1st, 2nd or 3rd editor who views it ? If the site was not appropriate for ODP, will it continue to be viewed by more and more editors without anyone deleting it, but continue to be unreviewed, inspite of all these visits by the editors ?

Regards,

Alucard said:

Another reason that a site might get looked at by editors is because of your status requests here, of course.

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Hello Alucard,

Thanks .... That could be a good reason for editors to visit the site ... but won't the combined effort of all such editors be much more than what it takes to review a site ? Won't it be much easier to review the site than answer all the frequent status queries, even if they are spaced a month apart ?

Regards,

No, I can look at your site to answer a question here, but since I don't have the authoization to edit the category I could not review it.

It should be empasized that most of the time the editor answering a question here will not be the one that reviews it.

but won't the combined effort of all such editors be much more than what it takes to review a site ? Won't it be much easier to review the site than answer all the frequent status queries, even if they are spaced a month apart ?

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In a word: no.

Asking about a site here often results in multiple editors taking a peek at it -- sometimes it only take 5 seconds (or it may take 15 minutes of investigation) to determine if a site is not listable. It can take a lot longer than that to actually list a site. There is a lot more work involved that simply looking at a site and hitting the 'list that puppy" button. On average it takes 10 to 20 minutes of focused work to properly list a site.

Ther could also be things happing behind the scenes that we will not discuss, such as one editor asking for a second or third opinion from a more experienced editor.

There is no way for you to tell why editors visited your site, nor if it was even them or a script that is looking for dead links in the unreviewed slush pile of sites. That is why we tell people time and time again that looking at your logs and trying to guess what is happening is simply an exercise in frustration for you.

The bottom line: your site will receive a formal review from a qualified editor at some point in time. At that time, a list/no-list decision will be made. There is no way we can predict when this will happen, and there is no way for you to guess when this will happen or to influence the process.

So what you are saying is that, instead of answering your status enquiries, we should go ahead and review the site?

There are a few issues with that, if that is what you mean - the first is that the purpose of this board is expressely not to expedite a review. All submissions are treated equally, as far as activity on this board is concerned.

Second, most editors do not answer status requests - they are busy using their time editing - it is only a small portion of the editors that regularly use this board to address enquiries from submitters.

And lastly: in actual fact, no, it is not easier to review a site than it is to answer a status enquiry.