Waiting several months for a listing!

russboy

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We submitted our site "glasses2you.co.uk" almost 2 months ago and still we are not listed. Can anyone give me a reason for this?

It seems ridiculous that you cannot speak to someone or at least be able to check progress.

Do editors give feedback for any sites not listed?

reaaly appreciate any feedback! Thanks
 

windharp

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Hi russboy, welcome to Resource-Zone!

Please start with reading the FAQ linked on the top of this forum and report back if there are any questions left unanswered, thanks.
 

russboy

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Listing

The way I see this is like my company allowing someone to order spectacles from our site. But if they dont receive them in two months they cannot ask why, they just have to sit and wait and maybe one day, they still wont get them. Lucky commercial companies cannot behave this way!!!
 

jimnoble

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Have you read the FAQ yet? ODP is most definitely not a listing service for webmasters.
Lucky commercial companies cannot behave this way!!!
Were we a commercial company, I expect you'd be demanding your money back :). Instead, we're a rather large swarm of volunteers engaged in building and maintaining a directory as an interesting and satisfying hobby. Any perceived benefit that is passed on to webmasters is merely a by-product of our labours and doesn't interest us.

What would be the logical reason for resuggesting your website?
 

bobrat

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Lucky commercial companies cannot behave this way
But many highly successful companies do. Try asking Google why your site is not ranking #1 in theiir search engine. If they don't answer complain at the Google forum about the failure to get feedback.
 

russboy

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Dmoz are very respected and it is very frustrating not to get listed. It does say on the submit help that it would take up to a week to review and list a site which is why i was asking if two months is usual.

If there is no way of checking then i can only suggest that something has gone amiss or we have been overlooked which is why i suggested re-listing.

Sorry if I caused any offence.
 

spectregunner

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Now you can help us. Can you give us a link to where it says that it takes a week? That is obviously an error that we would need to correct.
 

russboy

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http://dmoz.org/help/submit.html

Cant yet find where it mentions one week. But on the link above it does say up to two weeks or more, which is a bit vague but still only suggest a few weeks.

I will let you know if I can find the other link.

I guess I need to be patient. Thanks for all your answers.
 

giz

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I think we ought to get that text changed to reflect that it takes as long as it takes.
 

hutcheson

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One important attitudinal adjustment -- nobody cares when a site was submitted, so no interesting date measurements can be made from then.

Once a site is PUBLISHED, it is waiting for a review. (There is no way to wait for a "listing", since nobody ever promised anybody THAT!)

The point of a submittal is to possibly (not certainly) shorten the delay between site PUBLICATION and site REVIEW.

Since editors don't interview webmasters (they just review websites), there's not really a way of telling whether a site has been, or would be, reviewed in the absence of a submittal. (Certainly, thousands of unsubmitted sites are reviewed weekly, as well as thousands of reviewed sites. Sometimes we even know which is which.)
 

hutcheson

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Check out our FAQ page. There's no schedule, no priority, imposed even by site existance (and especially not by site submittal.) So time is irrelevant.

There are no categories that cannot be edited by many editors, and there are no categories in which someone else might not get editing privileges. Which means ... the editor list you're looking at is also irrelevant.

You haven't overlooked anything: there simply is no information (about the chances of a website's listing) to be had by divining the ODP process. (Editors and even meta-editors don't know any more in this respect than you do, because editors work independently.)

The only information that could be relevant is the uniqueness of your business and the website describing it. And that ... you know better than I ever could.
 

hutcheson

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Editors aren't interchangeable drones, like bottle cap washers in a beer factory. Each editor has his own interests, skills, schedules. So some categories might get very carefully tended, simply because a lot of active editors are interested in them. Other categories might get less activity simply because there aren't enough public-spirited surfers interested in the subject. So we might have enough editors to review all Gift Shops on the day they were submitted -- and yet decide there was something far better for them to do.

And even if the concept of "enough editors" could be extrapolated across the directory, it would still be meaningless. "Enough editors for WHAT?" to meet the demand? But nobody has a right to demand editors! To provide the information surfers want? But if surfers want that information badly enough, they'll find it, and if they want it published badly enough, they'll help publish it. If no surfers really want it that badly, then obviously the ODP has had enough done to satisfy everyone well enough.

We have enough editors to do what the editors think is worth doing most. We have enough editors to do more than any other general-purpose website review system has ever contemplated doing. But we don't have as many editors as we'd like. We don't have enough editors to make sure all the things I'd like done get done without my help. We have ... the editors we have, and we try to make the best of them, which is the only way to attract more editors.
 
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