What if the editor of a cateogry is your competitor?

chadhaajay · May 23, 2008

Hello Staff,

I'd like to know what will happen to our submissions if the editor of that particular category is your competitor? Will they never approve your submitted listings?

I'm asking it because this is important to us. I submitted one of our websites in the proper category years ago and I don't know if that category has any editor or the editor is some competiror? Anyhow our listings are still pending (i assume so if they are not deleted by someone) and we have no way to have any clue since you have stopped us to post the site status check questions.

Kindly spare some of your precious time (i know your time is very precious) and post your valueable responses.

Kind Regards,

Ajay Chadha (Director)

jimnoble · May 23, 2008

Anyhow our listings are still pending

Plural?

Your main website is already listed twice and has been for over a year.

If you have other entirely unrelated ones that haven't been suggested since 2006, please do so again.

UnderT · May 28, 2008

jimnoble said:
Plural?

Your main website is already listed twice and has been for over a year.

If you have other entirely unrelated ones that haven't been suggested since 2006, please do so again.

you didn't answer his question.

livebait · May 28, 2008

It shouldn't matter if the editor is a competitor of yours because an editor should be unbiased towards any site. As long as your site follows the guidelines and isn't already listed, and has been submitted to the right category then it's just a matter of waiting.

UnderT · May 28, 2008

livebait said:
It shouldn't matter if the editor is a competitor of yours because an editor should be unbiased towards any site. As long as your site follows the guidelines and isn't already listed, and has been submitted to the right category then it's just a matter of waiting.

hmm, dont you just wish all people actually were like that...most editors like Jimnoble take their role seriously, but some just cheat and make it a bad experience for us all.

windharp · May 29, 2008

Please stop making unfounded claims. If you have proof of any actual abuse by an editor, head over to our abuse report system and tell us. Just posting general accusations helps noone.

UnderT · May 29, 2008

windharp said:
Please stop making unfounded claims. If you have proof of any actual abuse by an editor, head over to our abuse report system and tell us. Just posting general accusations helps noone.

Yeah, true. Sorry, but it does get frustrating sometimes.

jimnoble · May 29, 2008

but it does get frustrating sometimes.

Doesn't it just.

Since it's apparently OK to let off steam by making up some entirely fictitious accusation I'll invent one of my own.

Thinking, thinking..... Got it.

All Australlian funeral services beginning with the letter B are crooks

pvgool · May 29, 2008

UnderT said:
Yeah, true. Sorry, but it does get frustrating sometimes.

Yes, it get very frustrating that
:icon_arro people suggest sites that we clearly will not list
:icon_arro people suggest sites without reading the guidelines
:icon_arro people complaining about something DMOZ does not provide (a listing service)
:icon_arro people making unfounded accusations just because DMOZ will not do what they want it to do and in the time they want it be done

It would become much easier if all these people would just stop.
This vocal minority just spoils everything for the majority of honest and decent website owners and for the DMOZ editor community.

Collusionary · May 31, 2008

Editors take this seriously. Even though editing is done in spare time in most cases, Editors have to ensure quality websites are listed. This being the case, competition is irrelevant. If an Editor were to keep the competition out of a certain category then it would be impossible to build that category right? DMOZ has it's own way of policing the directory and it makes that practice impossible without getting caught. Therefore it is not an issue.

UnderT · Jun 10, 2008

jimnoble said:
Doesn't it just.

Since it's apparently OK to let off steam by making up some entirely fictitious accusation I'll invent one of my own.

Thinking, thinking..... Got it.

Haha very funny, nice to see humour

livebait · Jun 10, 2008

if its humour your after check out

http://www.dmoz.org/Recreation/Humor/Jokes/Joke_of_the_Day/

wattaman · Jun 18, 2008

chadhaajay said:
Hello Staff,
I'd like to know what will happen to our submissions if the editor of that particular category is your competitor? Will they never approve your submitted listings?

Why would they approve any site, indeed?! They're simple people, after all, and they own websites to make money, most of them, not for a hobby. So why not eliminate the competitors, at least here, on Dmoz, where they can do it?!
Besides, they're so many posts with people saying their submissions was refused, though the description was right, the category was the right one etc.etc.
I know some editor will answer the same to me: "Submitters don't read the rules bla.bla..." Let me just answer to whatever you'll say to protect the dmoz image: People can read, all webmasters can read and I'm sure most of them sent the corect submission since everyone knows it takes forever to get listed here - most of the webmasters don't make mistakes when submitting a site, because of this. But the refused submissions seem to be too many - and is impossible to say that all of them haven't read the TOS... is like saying all are stupid or something.
However, I'm sure if you'll bribe one you'll get listed in no time

informator · Jun 18, 2008

People can read, all webmasters can read and I'm sure most of them sent the corect submission

Sometimes you wonder about that...

However, I'm sure if you'll bribe one you'll get listed in no time

Not true, you would be banned permanently if you tried.

chadhaajay · Feb 9, 2009

Where?

jimnoble said:
Your main website is already listed twice and has been for over a year.

I am not sure what happened but our main website's listing does not exist anymore in its respective category. Is there any update going on or was it deleted. I didn't even received an updated about it.

Can you please be so kind to shed some light on this issue? I've just resubmitted the main website's listing in the following category.

Regional/Asia/India/Punjab/Localities/Jalandhar/Business_and_Economy/Computers_and_Internet

In anticipation of your response...

Ajay Chadha (Director)

pvgool · Feb 9, 2009

> I am not sure what happened but our main website's listing does not exist
> anymore in its respective category.
Then it must have been deleted. Either temporary or permanent.

> Is there any update going on or was it deleted.
There are always updates going on. And websites are added and removed every day.
> I didn't even received an updated about it.
And you never will.

> Can you please be so kind to shed some light on this issue?
No, we can and will not discuss individual sites.

> I've just resubmitted the main website's listing in the following category.
There was no need for a new suggestion but it will not harm you.

Sites can be removed for several reasons, some of them are
- the site was not available, it is removed temporary for an editor to investigate
- the site changed content and is no longer listable
- the guidelines changed and the site is no longer listable under the new guidelines
- a new category is created and the site did fit better in that new category, it is moved - which could mean that it is temporary not visible

If it was removed temporary it will become listed again after an editor looked at the situation, which includes a new review. No suggestion needed.
If it was removed permanently it will not be listed again. No suggestion needed.

chadhaajay · Feb 9, 2009

pvgool said:
>Then it must have been deleted. Either temporary or permanent.

Sites can be removed for several reasons, some of them are
- the site was not available, it is removed temporary for an editor to investigate
- the site changed content and is no longer listable
- the guidelines changed and the site is no longer listable under the new guidelines
- a new category is created and the site did fit better in that new category, it is moved - which could mean that it is temporary not visible

If it was removed temporary it will become listed again after an editor looked at the situation, which includes a new review. No suggestion needed.
If it was removed permanently it will not be listed again. No suggestion needed.

May I know the reason of deletion as I'm quite sure that there was no reason out of the above mentioned 'several reasons'?

pvgool · Feb 9, 2009

chadhaajay said:
May I know the reason of deletion as I'm quite sure that there was no reason out of the above mentioned 'several reasons'?

Did you miss my previous answer?

> Can you please be so kind to shed some light on this issue?
No, we can and will not discuss individual sites.

chadhaajay · Feb 9, 2009

I can understand that you guys do not have time for discussing individual website but at least I must have the right to know if this was an accidental deletion or planned deletion by some competitor.

Please do not mistake my above words but try to think of yourself in my position and feel the pain.

motsa · Feb 9, 2009

It's not about time. This forum has a policy of not discussing individual sites. pvgool already gave you some advice regarding what you can do and what you can expect to happen. I'm afraid that's all we have for you.

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