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idleplay

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Got ya... cool.

Quite worrying though because the level above the cat I am trying to get listed in hasn't been updated for a lonnnnnng time.
 

cossack

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idleplay said:
Got ya... cool.

Quite worrying though because the level above the cat I am trying to get listed in hasn't been updated for a lonnnnnng time.

How do you know this?
 

idleplay

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I took a screen dump of the amount of sites within the sub categories a couple of months back and the numbers have not changed, in any category. This either means a 1 site in 1 site out protocol is in operation or the category and sub categories haven't been updated.
 

cossack

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idleplay said:
I took a screen dump of the amount of sites within the sub categories a couple of months back and the numbers have not changed, in any category. This either means a 1 site in 1 site out protocol is in operation or the category and sub categories haven't been updated.

categories haven't been updated... on the public side.
 

idleplay

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Not the category names themselves - i'm referring to the amounts of sites within the existing categories - it hasn't changed?
 

jjwill

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idleplay said:
Luggagebase - Do you think i'd be incapable of editing because I question peoples motives? I'm just being honest - I could sit here writing well written applications all day long but choose not to... I genuinely believe the majority of editors have an ulterior motive - non of the guys here as they're obviously interested in helping people out - but a very large selection of the 100's left will be in it for personal gain, probably financial.

You asked the question, not me. “Would you be good”, not “are you capable”. You may be capable but if you can't answer your original question, then I doubt you, at the time being, would be an effective (positive), self motivated editor. I could be entirely wrong. I’m not an editor and know very little. It's just how you come off. :)

Curious, you say you know or met a lot of editors. How many is a lot? Be accurate.
 

spectregunner

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Getting back to the gist of your question:

Not the category names themselves - i'm referring to the amounts of sites within the existing categories - it hasn't changed

There are enormous amounts of editing that can take place without any change in the number of sites listed. A few examples:

-- an editor goes in to a cat with 1,000 sites in the slush heap of unreviewed, and spend the better part of a month cleaning out 700 duplicates/spams/deeplinks. A massively valuable contribution by an editor who is willing to do the scut work for which there is no fame and glory, and neither the public nor the next editor will see the effort.

-- an editor goes in to a cat with several hundred listings and works exclusively on improving the titles and descriptions, validating that there has not been a content change on the site that would either invalidate the listing or require a complete rewrite. At the end of the effort, the number of sites is roughly unchanged, but the directory quality is much higher.

-- an editor goes into a top level category and spends a lot of time identifying obviously missubmitted sites and moving them to the correct categories. This is a significant problem for us, caused in small part by honest people who honestly don't understand how to submit, but mostly by greedy webmasters and spammers looking for an unfair advantage, and by lazy ISPs who contractually commit to submit the sites they build (in 30 minutes using templates) -- and meet that submission commitment by dumping them in to the directory in a seemingly random manner (usually to the highest possible category because they are too lazy or too incompetant to drill down to the right category).

So those are but three examples of where significant work can be done within a given category without the public side ever showing that anything was touched.
 

idleplay

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Yeah, I thought that was coming :) I guess i'm just a bit disgruntled about not having my page listed yet! I'm sure the editors are doing their best, i'll just shut up and wait patiently :p
 

idleplay

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Sorry luggagebase, missed your response there... as for the editors.... I know a "few" personally from various categories and i've met what I consider a lot at various conferences i've attended over the years etc.

I'm not going to give numbers as we both know it will open the floodgates of people telling me it's insignificant in the scheme of things i.e. it's just that the VAST majority of people i've actually met in person seem to be in it to promote their own sites, solely. Anyway! not to worry, it's nothing to do with me.

I apologise if I "come off" as a bit of a dick on this forum. I just get annoyed easily... but really I think you're all great :) {moz}
 
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