2 Years Later, Site Not Listed!

andrewdrake · Jun 20, 2007

Hi Guys,

I have tried submitting my site a couple of times over the last 2 years. Just doesn't seem to get listed.

No URLs here please

Is there a problem with this site?

jimnoble · Jun 21, 2007

We won't know until an editor looks at it. You can check whether or not it's listable for yourself by studying our submission guidelines (which you've already acknowledged that you've read) and checking out our editor guidelines at http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html .

andrewdrake · Jun 21, 2007

I read the guidelines are don't see any problems with my site. Guess I'll just keep waiting. I would have thought though after a few years it would manage to get listed

Andrew

dfiesta · Jun 22, 2007

I have the same problem with my site <url removed>
was a lot of time that i was send to the ODP and is not listed yet.....

jimnoble · Jun 22, 2007

was a lot of time that i was send to the ODP

Re-suggesting a website a few times to the same category isn't a problem because there can be good reasons for that.

Suggesting it a lot of times is spamming - which wastes everybody's time and could cause your website to be banned.

greenthumb79 · Jun 23, 2007

Lost Integrity

Don't waste your time with DMOZ, 90% of the editors are those who have an interest in that category. DMOZ has failed to target this very important issue as we can already see the directory is losing it's integrity. The only way DMOZ will survive is if it removes all editors and begins a pay per listing like yahoo. I didn't mind paying yahoo $299, and i wouldn't mind paying DMOZ either. This is the only way they will filter corrupt editors and make the directory a valuable resource.

crowbar · Jun 23, 2007

If I wasn't personally interested in the Water Garden category I edit, why would I edit there? I have no websites at all, anymore, and I'm not affiliated with any, but, I did build my own water garden last year, so I find that topic pretty interesting and decided to work there for the benefit of other water garden enthusiasts.

I live in the US so I'm also editing every category within the United States, I don't live in China, so I'm not interested in editing there (at this time), though that could change.

It sounds to me like you're offering to corrupt our interests with money for your own selfish purposes, so who's the corrupt one?

And, why should you be given special priority over the other thousands of site suggesters who are patiently waiting, without a murmur of complaint.

motsa · Jun 23, 2007

The only way DMOZ will survive is if it removes all editors and begins a pay per listing like yahoo. I didn't mind paying yahoo $299, and i wouldn't mind paying DMOZ either. This is the only way they will filter corrupt editors and make the directory a valuable resource.

There are so many problems with that concept: only commercial sites are likely to pay to be listed so no informational sites get reviewed -- how does that make it a more valuable resource?; the number of staff editors they'd be able to hire would not likely do nearly as much a volume of editing as the current volunteer editors so fewer sites overall would be listed; if they just pay editors, as opposed to hiring staff, there's likely to be far more corruption than there is now.

smartwater · Jun 25, 2007

motsa said:
there's likely to be far more corruption than there is now.

so are you saying that corruption exisits within DMOZ?

if so, what are you doing to STAMP it out?

regards

motsa · Jun 25, 2007

We wouldn't have a public abuse reporting form if we weren't aware that bad eggs do sometimes get in. We deal with editorial abuse as we find it.

Lurker · Jun 25, 2007

I edit in a regional category only. Most of the sites I add are non-commercial in nature. I add churches, chamber sites, tourist and informational non-profit sites. I can't imagine what the directory would look like if it went to paid submissions.

I suspect it would be full of online RX sites, porn sites and other marketing spam and very little in useful non-profit content.

Have you ever browsed the non-commercial directories in DMOZ? Try going to the regional locality where you reside and look at what is listed. Then ask yourself if all those sites would be listed if they had to pay for their submission.

For the record, I am not affiliated with any commercial websites. I edit for the sheer joy!

Eric-the-Bun · Jun 26, 2007

quote]like yahoo[/quote]
I've been waiting for 2+years for yahoo to list me

etc etc (insert usual reasons why a site should be listed

).

On the other hand they still put me top of their search results above those they have listed

so they obviously do not rate their directory that highly.

The truth is that if you have a unique, informative site you will get enough natural links to let the search engines know you exist, they will analyse your site and you will rise high in the rankings for your subject. One directory link here or there is not going to matter.

regards

vannova · Jun 26, 2007

my website <URL removed> has not been registered in DMOZ.
what could be the possible reasons

<email removed for member's privacy>

liszt · Jun 26, 2007

If you had followed this discussion you would have found some hints like the one by jimnoble in item #2 which contains a reference to the editor guidelines...

smartwater · Jun 27, 2007

Eric-the-Bun said:
The truth is that if you have a unique, informative site you will get enough natural links to let the search engines know you exist, they will analyse your site and you will rise high in the rankings for your subject. One directory link here or there is not going to matter.

regards

actually - if you get a link in dmoz, you also get a link in the google directory. AND you get a link from all the other sites that use the ODP as a clone directory

so how many links is that then? ANS: more than 1

jimnoble · Jun 27, 2007

Hint 1: When did Google last update its directory from our database?
Hint 2: Does Google give any weight to links from the clone directories?

smartwater · Jun 28, 2007

jimnoble said:
Hint 1: When did Google last update its directory from our database?
Hint 2: Does Google give any weight to links from the clone directories?

with regards to the above

1. not that long ago actually. as i know someone who managed to get their site listed in dmoz about 3 months ago and they are also in the google directory. so google has done an update within the last few months

2. only those who know the google formula can give an answer to that

shadow575 · Jun 28, 2007

I am under the impression its been much longer than 3 months since the google directory last updated with dmoz but I could be wrong. I can confirm however that it must have occurred sometime prior to January given that Google's directory still lists me as an editor for categories I resigned from in January. ;-)

spectregunner · Jun 28, 2007

i know someone who managed to get their site listed in dmoz about 3 months ago and they are also in the google directory

You probably know this, but others who are just reading theads might not:

It is important to remember there are two relevant components to Google, a directory and a search engine and prople often confuse a listing in the Google directory with results in the much more popular Google search engine.

smartwater · Jun 29, 2007

motsa said:
We wouldn't have a public abuse reporting form if we weren't aware that bad eggs do sometimes get in. We deal with editorial abuse as we find it.

so if someone does report abuse, what guarantee exisits that the abuse will be dealt with?

how do we know that the person who reviews such abuse reports are not the ones conducting such abuse to begin with?

2 Years Later, Site Not Listed!

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