No reply, please help.

Harty · Aug 14, 2005

I have gotten my site listed in dmoz about 4 months ago.
but I sent an email to the editor of my section suggesting that they change the description that they gave me ,as it does not fit my site.
I have not heard back from anyone in at least a month, is this normal
I don't know what to do... help anyone..

pvgool · Aug 14, 2005

Editors are advised not to answer emails.
Questions can be asked here at R-Z.
If you want to ask for an update for a listing use the "update listing" link at the top of the category your site is listed in.

Harty · Aug 14, 2005

thanks. i will try that

Harty · Aug 15, 2005

i spoke to my webmaster,
and he tells me, we did that 3 weeks ago.
anyone got any ideas how long it takes to get updated

gimmster · Aug 15, 2005

anyone got any ideas how long it takes to get updated

No, updates are done as a priority by some editors, however the time to review of an update request can still be in the 2 minutes to 2 years+ time frame.
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brmehlman · Aug 15, 2005

Generally, I'd expect an update request to be reviewed anywhere from a few minutes to a few months after it is submitted. Two years is not impossible, but I would consider it unlikely for an update request.

Note that I say reviewed, not updated. If the requested description is not suitable according to our Editing Style Guidelines it will not be accepted.

Harty · Aug 15, 2005

its only the title description that they gave us, we feel that it does not
suit our brand, and could be worded different.

pvgool · Aug 15, 2005

In most cases we will use the company name as title for the listing.

hutcheson · Aug 15, 2005

Ah, the surfer's interest in your brand is far less than nothing, and that reality will inevitably shape the ODP guidelines. If that's what you're interested in, save us all some time, and don't make any suggestions for changes.

Harty · Aug 15, 2005

this is the problem.
they have used the name of the manufacturer [jespar BIOS]
and not our name. [plazan skin care] we are the distributors.
and this site belongs to us, not them.

our title in ODP reads like this.
Plazan: Offers facial skin care products from Jespar-BIOS.

and should read like this.
plazan skin care: offers a range of Cosmeceutical skin care products.

as we do not only offer facial products, but a whole range.
and we are nothing to do with , jespar BIOS.

i have put in a request, i will just have to wait and see

bobrat · Aug 15, 2005

Perhaps the title should be should be: Ost Cosmetics Ltd.

pvgool · Aug 15, 2005

Be sure that when you make an update request you follow our guidelines.
See http://editors.dmoz.org/guidelines/describing.html for the proper way to write a title and description.
If you provide a description or title not according to our guidelines very probably the complete requests will be rejected. And always include a good reason why we should change the listing.

Harty · Aug 15, 2005

thank you all very much, for your guidance on this matter

hutcheson · Aug 15, 2005

Your suggested description included multiple violations of the ODP policies, and therefore would have been rejected whenever it was reviewed.

If you want to suggest again, point out, in your reasons for change, what content you offer that the reviewer overlooked (in thinking you were a one-manufacturer retailer). Omit the coined- and buzz-words -- that'll get the whole thing deleted out of hand as the spam it is indistinguishable from. Don't repeat terms that are obvious from the category name. Think about the information contained in words you suggest adding -- for instance, "a range of" is semantic noise! Get the company name right -- that's always something that gives a reviewer a favorable impression. If there is a focus to the company's line, that would differentiate it from another thousand cosmetic retailers, definitely mention it. ("facial" was probably the reviewer's attempt to find such a focus.)

bobrat · Aug 15, 2005

The problem with updates is that if the suggested revised description is not following ODP guidelines, the editor will usually delete it without going further - even if the existing description [if examined carefully] is incorrect. As suggested, you have to spend time writing a good description and supply a good reason why it should be looked at. Most updates are ignored since they are keyword loaded spam.

Yesterday, I received an update that wanted a descrption change, that was totally worng, and wanted a URL change, when the existing site worked fine. I scrapped the whole thing, but happened to take a quick look at the site - lucky for him - it did get a revised description [not the one he wanted] - it kept it's URL - and since I noticed they had opened two new offices in other countries, it got submitted to two regional categories. I addtion an existing listing in another [wrong] category will be moved.

Harty · Aug 16, 2005

thanks for the further info.
i have sent my webmaster here to read your comments

Harty · Aug 24, 2005

i am still not getting a response.
we sent in a very good
request for re-listing ..

Alucard · Aug 24, 2005

Harty, the resubmission will be processed along with other suggestions for sites. It could be already done by the time you read this, or it could take more than 2 years.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I just want to set realistic expectations for you, and your webmaster.

bobrat · Aug 24, 2005

And when someone actaully looks at it, the chances are it will not be done anyway. My experience is that only about 10% of update requests are acceptable.

bobrat · Aug 24, 2005

In a previous post you said

this is the problem.
they have used the name of the manufacturer [jespar BIOS]
and not our name. [plazan skin care] we are the distributors.
and this site belongs to us, not them.

this site belongs to us, not them - I'm not sure what you mean by them and us - you appears to be the same company

http://www.restec.ru/exhibitions/featured/nice/list.en.html?exhib=348&id=5625

Plazan (Jespar-Bios) Ltd.

14 Leningradsky Prospect, Building 1, Moscow, 125040, Russia
2/5 Shafiev St., Ufa, 450083, Russia
136 Nevsky Prospect, Building 20 Н, St.Petersburg, 193024, Russia

PLAZAN trade mark. Jespar-Bios Ltd. is an owner of scientific researching laboratory. The laboratory attends to problems of stability of placenta components and pick out systems.

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IMO - It's highly doubtful that anything will be changed

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