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NCMan

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In searching:

http://www.dmoz.org/Arts/Illustration/Historic_Illustrators/


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I encountered the following hijacked/redirected link: The new website appears to be a Greek directory.

David Copperfield: The European Prospect - Images, illustrations, photos and exerpts from David Copperfield. Includes student resources.
http://www.epopteia.net/dickens/phiz/cophiz.html

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Title and description do not match site. The website of this Sarasota, Florida Arts college is listed in 3 different categories

Maturo, Joseph A. - Biographical information on Joseph A. Maturo, artist and illustrator of magazine stories and 20th Century Fox movie posters.

Already listed in the following categories:

http://dmoz.org/Reference/Education...es/Florida/Ringling_School_of_Art_and_Design/


http://dmoz.org/Reference/Education/Colleges_and_Universities/Virtual_Tours/
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Hi!

In searching category:

http://dmoz.org/Arts/Illustration/Historic_Illustrators/

I discovered gross duplication of site pages within same category: Of 99 entries in this category, I counted 79 as being pages from one of 4 URL’s!!!! I had to split this post into three posts to keep it under the DMOZ limit:


I also found a hijacked link within this category. What is the editor of this category doing?

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This entry is duplicated in another category:


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Anderson, Harry (1906-1996) - An illustrated biography.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/anderson.htm

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Artzybasheff, Boris (1899-1965) - An illustrated biography.
http://www.bpib.com/artzybas.htm

This entry is duplicated in the following category:




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http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/search?search=Bauer,+John&cat=Kids_and_Teens&cs=UTF-8&all=no

Bauer, John (1882-1917) - Discusses the life and work of this influential fantasy artist born in Jonkoping, Sweden. Includes many of his illustrations.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/bauer.htm


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Clarke, Harry (1889-1931) - An illustrated biography.
http://www.bpib.com/clark.htm

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Coll, Joseph Clement (1881-1921) - An illustrated biography of Joseph Clement Coll - a master of pen & ink.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/coll.htm

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Cornwell, Dean - Born 1892. An illustrated essay.
http://www.bpib.com/cornwell.htm


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Craig, Frank (1874-1918) - An illustrated biography of Frank Craig, British artist of the early twentieth century who painted images for Kipling, Robert W. Chambers and others.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/craig.htm

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Finlay, Virgil (1914-1971) - An illustrated biography.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/finlay.htm

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Goble, Warwick (1862-1943) - An illustrated essay.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/goble.htm



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Gross, Milt (1895-1953) - An illustrated biography.
http://www.bpib.com/gross.htm

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Held Jr., John (1889-1958) - An illustrated biography of John Held Jr., the delineator of flappers and sheiks and the Roaring Twenties.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/johnheld.html

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Hogarth, Burne (1911-1996) - An illustrated biography.
http://www.bpib.com/hogarth.htm

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Krigstein, Bernie - Born 1919. An illustrated biography.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/krigstei.htm

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Loomis, Andrew (1892 - 1959) - An illustrated biography of Andrew Loomis, known for his art instruction books.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/loomis.htm

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Lowell, Orson (1871-1956) - An illustrated biography.
http://www.bpib.com/lowell.htm

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Nielsen, Kay (1886-1957) - Brief illustrated biography with online references and links.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/nielsen.htm

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Pape, Eric (1870-1938) - An illustrated biography, including a 1910 newspaper article.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/pape.htm

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Partch, Virgil (1916-1984) - An illustrated biography of VIP, the darkly humorous creator of Big George and other cartoons for True, Colliers, Look, and for his own original compilations.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/partch.htm

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Percy Crosby (1890-1964) - An illustrated biography, and book sales.
http://www.bpib.com/crosby.htm


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Phillips, Coles - An illustrated biography of the creator of the Phillips' girls, and of the fadeaway technique.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/phillips.htm

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Vierge, Daniel (1851-1904) - Illustrated biography. Provides an explanation of the changes from wood engraving to photo engraving in illustration and the main influence of Vierge in this development.
http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/vierge.htm


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Chambers, Charles Edward (1883-1941) - Biography.
http://www.illustration-house.com/bios/chambers_bio.html


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Dohanos, Stevan (1907-1994) - Biography.
http://www.illustration-house.com/bios/dohanos_bio.html



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Eggenhofer, Nick (1897-1985) - Biography.
http://www.illustration-house.com/bios/eggenhofer_bio.html

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Fawcett, Robert (1903-1967) - Biography. One story illustration.
http://www.illustration-house.com/bios/fawcett_bio.html

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Outcault, Richard Felton (1863-1928) - Biography.
http://www.illustration-house.com/bios/outcault_bio.html

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Parker, Al (1906-1985) - Biography.
http://www.illustration-house.com/bios/parker_bio.html

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Sambrook, Russell - Biography. One illustration.
http://www.illustration-house.com/bios/sambrook_bio.html

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Bennett, Harriet - Active: 1877-1897. Biographical note, and two illustrations
http://www.ortakales.com/illustrators/Bennett.html


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Burd, Clara Miller - Active: 1900-1930s. Illustrated biography.
http://www.ortakales.com/illustrators/Burd.html

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Hallock, Ruth Mary - Active 1903-1936. Biographical note, and several illustrations.
http://www.ortakales.com/illustrators/Hallock.html

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O'Neill, Rose (1874-1944) - Illustrated biography.
http://www.ortakales.com/illustrators/Oneill.html

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Storer, Florence Edith - Active 1909-1914. Biographical note, and several illustrations.
http://www.ortakales.com/illustrators/Storer.html

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Women Children's Book Illustrators - Women illustrators from the Victorian period up to World War II, a project by Denise Ortakales.
http://www.ortakales.com/Illustrators/




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Victorian Illustrators - 19th century illustration by Millais, Leighton, William Morris and an extensive list of other British artists.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/speel/illus/illus.htm



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Bewick, Thomas (1753-1828) - Notes on the life of the man who founded the British School of wood engraving.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/speel/illus/bewick.htm

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Victorian Illustrators - 19th century illustration by Millais, Leighton, William Morris and an extensive list of other British artists.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/speel/illus/illus.htm

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I encountered the following hijacked/redirected link:

David Copperfield: The European Prospect - Images, illustrations, photos and exerpts from David Copperfield. Includes student resources.
http://www.epopteia.net/dickens/phiz/cophiz.html

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NCMan

Re: posts 3084-87:

I discovered gross duplication of site pages within same category: Of 99 entries in this category, I counted 79 as being pages from one of 4 URL’s!!!! I had to split this post into three posts to keep it under the DMOZ limit:

These listings are referred to as deeplinks. Although we ask that these types of links not be suggested from the outside it is acceptable for editors building categories to seek out and use these deeplinks in certain circumstances, and within our stated guidelines

In the case of specific Illustrators (as you noted) and also for smaller categories that are specific to well know people (artists, actors, etc.) this is a fairly common practice. Again, please note it is only at editors’ discretion and we generally do not allow outside suggestions of multiple deeplinks.

Also, the Kids and Teens section of the directory is considered a separate entity and contains only kid safe sites. It is very possible and often encouraged to have sites appear in both the “Classic” directory and the Kids and Teens section when appropriate ased on the site content.

Item3083 is done.

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Item #3054 - Done (by another editor)
Item #3055 - Done (by another editor)
Item #3058 - Done - RamTelecom and VSAT Puerto Rico both work for me.
Item #3064 - Done (by another editor)
Item #3066 - Done (by another editor)
Item #3067 - Done
Item #3068 - Done
Item #3069 - Done

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Item #3070 - Done

Item #3071 - Done
Re: "Atlantic Mortgage Corporation"
HTML page title is “Michigan Mortgage Rates”. My understanding of ODP site submission rules is that the HTML page title of the home page must be the company name. Therefore, this site never should have been added.
This is not correct. The "Meta" title is of no concern when determining the listing of a site. The "Title" is determined from what appears on the site as the company, organization or entity name.

Item #3072 - Mobile Burn - Although this is the exception and not the rule, it is possible to have a site double listed in Topical categories (at editor discretion only). I believe the "Non-profit" statement refers to the organization and not the actual website. However, as I did not find it stated on the web site I did remove it from the description.

Item #3073 - Done (by another editor)

Item #3074 - Done

Item #3075 - Done

Item #3076 - Reported internally

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RE: Artisan

Hi!

Thanks for your reply regarding posts 3084-87, you mentioned:


"These listings are referred to as deeplinks. Although we ask that these types of links not be suggested from the outside it is acceptable for editors building categories to seek out and use these deeplinks in certain circumstances, and within our stated guidelines "


Thanks. I reviewed the guidelines and still fail to see how a couple of sites hawking magazine subscriptions and book sales can get so many directory linstings.

http://www.bpib.com/ Sells "Images" magazine from each ODP listed page

http://www.illustration-house.com/ Sells books and subscriptions from it's homepage

http://www.ortakales.com/gallery/ Licenses the site owners art designs and advertises her commercial art illustration services

These aren't large sites with thousands of diverse and eclectic pages. These are small focused commercial sites using their deeplinked pages to sell magazine subscriptions and books. Furthermore, they could easily provide single click access to each page from their homepage. They certainly did so for subscription links.

In marketing, what these sites have done is to provide "loss leader" pages. each individual page doesn't make a great contribution to the bottom line but in aggregate, the large number of directory listings dramatically boosts the sites overall web visibility thereby allowing the site owner a substantial advantage in marketing their personal and highly related goods and services from the same site

How is what they did any different than, the owner of a small hardware store posting a page about the history of a particlular screw or hammer where each page contains links to a shopping cart?


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Arts/Illustration/Historic Illustrators/ contains sites and page links that provide information on well known Illustrators. The editor(s) who work to build out this category are looking for unique information about the individuals.

They are not concerned with how a listing from a particular site is going to benefit the site owner in the search engines.

They are not concerned with advertising and other links on the site (unless these are so extensive that the page content cannot be easily found.

It is all about providing the web surfer with information specific to e.g. Edwin Austin Abbey as found on http://www.bpib.com/abbey.htm.

I am not saying that every link is valid as I have not reviewed each one. At some point an editor found the link – most likely through a search on the Illustrator’s name and determined that it provided information that could be of use to someone interested in that particular Illustrator.

How is what they did any different than, the owner of a small hardware store posting a page about the history of a particular screw or hammer where each page contains links to a shopping cart?

No different at all. And if an editor decided to build a category on the history of that screw or hammer – it might just get listed. :)
 

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While searching:

http://www.dmoz.org/Games/Roleplaying/

5th Entry from top

Dead link

Complete RPG - Genre sorted list of games featuring links, character sheets and reference material.

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Site no longer operational. Read message on homepage. It says the site has been out of operation for 3 years

Extrico - The rec.games.frp.moderated information page. General and administrative FAQs for the moderated newsgroup for discussion of human-moderated "tabletop" or "pen and paper" role-playing games.

7th Entry from top

Link hijacked to some type of junkfood site.

Flatearth Games - Features forums, online tools, downloadable fonts, and a user created world called Caeldera


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Link redirected to parking page

Tesarta Online Gamer's Resource Library - A constantly growing collection of articles and documents created by the staff of Tesarta as well as links to other parts of the Web and books at Amazon.com, all covering a wide range of topics of interest to roleplayers.

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Hi!

While searching:

http://www.dmoz.org/Sports/Golf/College_and_University/

I encountered the following category quality issues:

5th entry from top

Link takes you to some sort of parking page

National Golf Institute - Australia's Premier Golf School offering short and long term courses for a career in the golf industry. Intensive programs for aspiring professional players, and high school/golf programs also offered​

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