Report Hijacks, Dead Links, Inappropriate DMOZ Content, and other issues here ONLY
I indeed was looking at the current directory, but it seems to be last updated Nov 22, 2003. You should see it if you drill down to that cat on the public side and not from the editor side. Funny thing is that the Google directory shows a later update without 2 of the sites I mentioned (Hkseek and Lycos), so Google updated from Dmoz but not the Dmoz dir itself - does that make any sense?
Thanks for taking care of these. Btw, thehelper seems to be saying this is not the place for comments like these. If not here then where?
Thanks for taking care of these. Btw, thehelper seems to be saying this is not the place for comments like these. If not here then where?
jeanmanco
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Nochaos - How strange. I don't know how you could see that old page unless it is in your own cache.
Believe me I looked on the public side of the ODP and hkseek.com was not showing there. Google takes a copy of the ODP RDF and so cannot be more up to date than the ODP, (unless the ODP has a disaster and has to roll back to an earlier version.)
Perhaps we should have a new thread for typos? I'm not sure where it would go though. It's not really a good fit under Abuse or Bugs and Features.
I agree that in the larger scheme of things, removing hijacked and dead links is more urgent. The crucial thing for our users is to be able to get to the content they want. But there are editors who like to pursue typos. Reported errors tend to get fixed quickly.
Believe me I looked on the public side of the ODP and hkseek.com was not showing there. Google takes a copy of the ODP RDF and so cannot be more up to date than the ODP, (unless the ODP has a disaster and has to roll back to an earlier version.)
Perhaps we should have a new thread for typos? I'm not sure where it would go though. It's not really a good fit under Abuse or Bugs and Features.
I agree that in the larger scheme of things, removing hijacked and dead links is more urgent. The crucial thing for our users is to be able to get to the content they want. But there are editors who like to pursue typos. Reported errors tend to get fixed quickly.
Jean,
As far as I know, I had never before been to the HK cat in question so cannot believe it was in my cache. Just minutes ago I refreshed the cat, and your edits are now seen as updated today. Somehow that cat must not have been updated for whatever reason but is definitely there now, even for me.
"Typos" is, I think, a bit of a misnomer for what I was doing and may do in the future. True, my first suggested correction earlier was a typo, but the remaining comments had more to do with inaccurate statements - improper descriptions, partial names rather than full, an incorrect title(imo). These latter aren't typos so much as conceptual errors and deserve correction just as much as dead links. In fact, dead links much of the time aren't all that important to deal with for one very good reason - sites that are down today are often back up tomorrow, so taking them out prematurely may only defeat your own purposes by creating unnecessary work as well as eliminating useful sites.
Imo, there should be a clear place to report obvious problems, not just typos. QC should have a high priority; it reflects the degree to which an editor has reviewed a site. Sloppy work only begets more of the same. I would much more appreciate an editor who spends time doing a solid job than one who tries to set some sort of record in speeding through sites only to have others later on have to redo or correct mistakes.
As far as I know, I had never before been to the HK cat in question so cannot believe it was in my cache. Just minutes ago I refreshed the cat, and your edits are now seen as updated today. Somehow that cat must not have been updated for whatever reason but is definitely there now, even for me.
"Typos" is, I think, a bit of a misnomer for what I was doing and may do in the future. True, my first suggested correction earlier was a typo, but the remaining comments had more to do with inaccurate statements - improper descriptions, partial names rather than full, an incorrect title(imo). These latter aren't typos so much as conceptual errors and deserve correction just as much as dead links. In fact, dead links much of the time aren't all that important to deal with for one very good reason - sites that are down today are often back up tomorrow, so taking them out prematurely may only defeat your own purposes by creating unnecessary work as well as eliminating useful sites.
Imo, there should be a clear place to report obvious problems, not just typos. QC should have a high priority; it reflects the degree to which an editor has reviewed a site. Sloppy work only begets more of the same. I would much more appreciate an editor who spends time doing a solid job than one who tries to set some sort of record in speeding through sites only to have others later on have to redo or correct mistakes.
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I agree that typos need to be fixed asap it was the other stuff in the thread I was speaking of. That stuff was real borderline and though technically the whole category needed QC I did not see it as an abuse or hijack issue. Maybe a new thread should be made for QC issues like this, but I think typos should remain here. I would have corrected the typo myself but I did know the correct spelling either
jeanmanco
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Nochaos - well the mystery remains over the old ODP page.
I wouldn't worry too much about dead links being deleted prematurely. When I returned to the ODP and RZ after a break, there was quite a backlog of reported broken links here. So I was checking them some days or even weeks after first found dead. Only a very, very few turned out to be live. You can check them yourself, if you feel so inclined.
If there seems some possibility of a return, the listing will simply be moved behind the scenes for a while.
I wouldn't worry too much about dead links being deleted prematurely. When I returned to the ODP and RZ after a break, there was quite a backlog of reported broken links here. So I was checking them some days or even weeks after first found dead. Only a very, very few turned out to be live. You can check them yourself, if you feel so inclined.
If there seems some possibility of a return, the listing will simply be moved behind the scenes for a while.
Inapproriate ODP content and possible hijack
Under the category : http://dmoz.org/Regional/Asia/Singapore/Business_and_Economy/Employment/Online_Services/
this site Careers Management Services at url: http://web.singnet.com.sg/~cmsedu/ is a education management or service site.
"We assist students in applying for places in schools, colleges and universities in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and the United States of America." the free service is only for councelling
not exactly a site to be included in
http://dmoz.org/Regional/Asia/Singapore/Business_and_Economy/Employment/Online_Services/
it should be placed in (if it should be placed at all)
http://dmoz.org/Regional/Asia/Singapore/Education/Management/
Another site at (same page) Career Zone
URL : http://www.careerzone.com.sg/
this use to be a job site as what's described in your directory;
But Its now a single page site listing what you see on the home page. no more job search or job listings.
Possible hijack
http://www.9to5.com.sg/
the page gets redirected to www.careermastery.com
Under the category : http://dmoz.org/Regional/Asia/Singapore/Business_and_Economy/Employment/Online_Services/
this site Careers Management Services at url: http://web.singnet.com.sg/~cmsedu/ is a education management or service site.
"We assist students in applying for places in schools, colleges and universities in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and the United States of America." the free service is only for councelling
not exactly a site to be included in
http://dmoz.org/Regional/Asia/Singapore/Business_and_Economy/Employment/Online_Services/
it should be placed in (if it should be placed at all)
http://dmoz.org/Regional/Asia/Singapore/Education/Management/
Another site at (same page) Career Zone
URL : http://www.careerzone.com.sg/
this use to be a job site as what's described in your directory;
But Its now a single page site listing what you see on the home page. no more job search or job listings.
Possible hijack
http://www.9to5.com.sg/
the page gets redirected to www.careermastery.com
cacaphonic.com
www.cacaphonic.com
This domain was earlier owned by Nate Thomas and contained movie reviews by him. It has since been hijacked.
Here's an example -
earlier -
http://web.archive.org/web/20040220043341/www.cacaphonic.com/movies/archives/000072.php
and now -
www.cacaphonic.com/movies/archives/000072.php
Listed in -
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/E/Edward_Scissorhands/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/M/Moulin_Rouge_-_2001/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/M/Master_and_Commander_-_The_Far_Side_of_the_World/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/P/Phone_Booth/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/S/Scotland,_PA/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/T/Texas_Chainsaw_Massacre_Series/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/E/Elf/Reviews/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/K/Kill_Bill_Series/Kill_Bill_-_Volume_1/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/M/Matrix_Series/Matrix_Revolutions,_The/Reviews/
Already removed from -
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/2/28_Days_Later/
www.cacaphonic.com
This domain was earlier owned by Nate Thomas and contained movie reviews by him. It has since been hijacked.
Here's an example -
earlier -
http://web.archive.org/web/20040220043341/www.cacaphonic.com/movies/archives/000072.php
and now -
www.cacaphonic.com/movies/archives/000072.php
Listed in -
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/E/Edward_Scissorhands/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/M/Moulin_Rouge_-_2001/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/M/Master_and_Commander_-_The_Far_Side_of_the_World/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/P/Phone_Booth/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/S/Scotland,_PA/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/T/Texas_Chainsaw_Massacre_Series/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/E/Elf/Reviews/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/K/Kill_Bill_Series/Kill_Bill_-_Volume_1/
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/M/Matrix_Series/Matrix_Revolutions,_The/Reviews/
Already removed from -
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Movies/Titles/2/28_Days_Later/
Inappropriate ODP Content
3 cheers to jeanmanco and all the editors who has been working so hard
http://www.aqualite.com.sg/
Aqualite Trading Pte Ltd at the category http://dmoz.org/Regional/Asia/Singapore/Business_and_Economy/Beauty_and_Cosmetic_Services/
A bidet company placed in Beauty and cosmetic services.
3 cheers to jeanmanco and all the editors who has been working so hard
http://www.aqualite.com.sg/
Aqualite Trading Pte Ltd at the category http://dmoz.org/Regional/Asia/Singapore/Business_and_Economy/Beauty_and_Cosmetic_Services/
A bidet company placed in Beauty and cosmetic services.
G
gimmster
Hmmm, site moved.
Thanks
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Thanks
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Category:
http://dmoz.org/Health/Conditions_and_Diseases/Infectious_Diseases/Spirochetal/Lyme_Disease/
Broken links:
Ask Noah...http://www.noah-health.org/english/illness/lyme/lyme.html
Health A to Zhttp://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/dc/caz/infc/lyme/ldindex.html
Lyme Disease Explainedhttp://www2.bc.edu/~lamontia/lyme.htm
Sharing Our Storieshttp://groups.msn.com/Sharingourstories/_homepage.msnw?pgmarket=en-us
http://dmoz.org/Health/Conditions_and_Diseases/Infectious_Diseases/Spirochetal/Lyme_Disease/
Broken links:
Ask Noah...http://www.noah-health.org/english/illness/lyme/lyme.html
Health A to Zhttp://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/dc/caz/infc/lyme/ldindex.html
Lyme Disease Explainedhttp://www2.bc.edu/~lamontia/lyme.htm
Sharing Our Storieshttp://groups.msn.com/Sharingourstories/_homepage.msnw?pgmarket=en-us
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dead link and spam sites
While reviewing sites listed in: /Shopping/Clothing/Custom/Printing/
If found a dead link, Stichalogo - http://stitchalogo.homestead.com/Pinoy.html
And a spam launching site, Patriotprints - http://free.hostdepartment.com/s/shirt1/index.html
Quite a few of the sites listed in this category are poorly built with out dated content and broken links internally. This category could use a little tlc if any of you editors are available.
Is this category needing an editor? I am thinking of re-Applying to edit this category but my last submission was turned down citing that the category was already well represented. Is it really well represented?
Thanks,
David
While reviewing sites listed in: /Shopping/Clothing/Custom/Printing/
If found a dead link, Stichalogo - http://stitchalogo.homestead.com/Pinoy.html
And a spam launching site, Patriotprints - http://free.hostdepartment.com/s/shirt1/index.html
Quite a few of the sites listed in this category are poorly built with out dated content and broken links internally. This category could use a little tlc if any of you editors are available.
Is this category needing an editor? I am thinking of re-Applying to edit this category but my last submission was turned down citing that the category was already well represented. Is it really well represented?
Thanks,
David
Cooled Businesses
What is the rule when it comes to cooling individual businesses, esp'ly national air carriers?
Starting from the cat http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Travel/Transportation/Air/Airlines/Asia/, there are @links to the airlines of 12 countries in Asia. Countries whose national airlines made the grade include India (2 of them no less), Malaysia, Pakistan and Singapore. Not all countries may have national carriers as such, but do those who do really deserve such an honor as one of the best overall sites in the cats? These are, afterall, merely businesses that just happen to be owned by their respective governments. I did not see the same treatment in Europe or N. America (like Canada, eg); only in Asia were certain airlines so lucky.
One other point, in the Singapore @link China Airlines is listed. This airline is based in Taiwan and is also listed there as it should be. While this airline indeed flies to Singapore, so do dozens of other airlines worldwide, yet for some reason only C-A is allowed to be double-listed.
And a final point, in case you are not aware of it, SilkAir is a subsidiary of Singapore Air (both are listed). If you look hard enough, you will see each has deeplinks to the other.
What is the rule when it comes to cooling individual businesses, esp'ly national air carriers?
Starting from the cat http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Travel/Transportation/Air/Airlines/Asia/, there are @links to the airlines of 12 countries in Asia. Countries whose national airlines made the grade include India (2 of them no less), Malaysia, Pakistan and Singapore. Not all countries may have national carriers as such, but do those who do really deserve such an honor as one of the best overall sites in the cats? These are, afterall, merely businesses that just happen to be owned by their respective governments. I did not see the same treatment in Europe or N. America (like Canada, eg); only in Asia were certain airlines so lucky.
One other point, in the Singapore @link China Airlines is listed. This airline is based in Taiwan and is also listed there as it should be. While this airline indeed flies to Singapore, so do dozens of other airlines worldwide, yet for some reason only C-A is allowed to be double-listed.
And a final point, in case you are not aware of it, SilkAir is a subsidiary of Singapore Air (both are listed). If you look hard enough, you will see each has deeplinks to the other.