site: www.giftbargains4u.com

Barbi1258 · Oct 3, 2004

submitted request under

http://www.giftbargains4u.com/Shopping/Gifts

I cannot find any status info and would appreciate any update or assistance.

Thank you.

thehelper · Oct 3, 2004

Please go back and read the forum guidelines for information on how to properly format your status requests. Thanks.

kokopeli · Oct 3, 2004

Actually, it doesn't matter. Your site will not be listed. Please see http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html#notinclude for the specifics.

Barbi1258 · Oct 3, 2004

Meta,

Can someone shed some light on this? I read the information on that link, but none of it applies to my web site. It's not based on Affiliate programs, so I'm clue-less as to the results.

hutcheson · Oct 3, 2004

You don't understand -- that's OK. Many people never do.

The practical advice is: just don't suggest any more commercial sites until you can look back at THIS one and say, "Oh yes, that's obviously not what the ODP is looking for, and can't be made into anything that the ODP would look for." That much, I think you can understand -- and that's all that's needed for any practical purpose. With that, you can focus your promotional efforts where they may have some positive effect for you.

kokopeli · Oct 3, 2004

We do not go into specifics in this forum as to why a site cannot be listed, although it has been said her more than once that the usual reason is a lack of unique content. Let's try it this way. You most likely submitted it to http://dmoz.org/Shopping/General_Merchandise/ you are welcome to look at the submission guidelines for that particular category.

Barbi1258 · Nov 12, 2004

Thank you for the response. I will go back and look at the submission guidelines for that particular category.

Barbi1258 · Mar 31, 2005

Spectregunner, thank you for locating this thread for me.

The reason I opened the other post was because I was unable to find this one, even with the Search feature.

I resubmitted my site to the appropriate category in November 2004:

http://dmoz.org/Shopping/Home_and_Garden/Decor_and_Design/

May I please have a status update? Thank you.

kokopeli · Mar 31, 2005

Please refer back to

Actually, it doesn't matter. Your site will not be listed. Please see http://dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html#notinclude for the specifics.

Sorry

Barbi1258 · Mar 31, 2005

Am I submitting to the wrong category again? I viewed a few of the sites you list in your directory that sell my same products, so I don't understand why you are referring me to that page. Can you please explain? Thanks.

bobrat · Mar 31, 2005

The link above lists types of sites that will not be included, no matter what category. Your site will not be accepted into the directory, and you should now try other means of marketing.

Barbi1258 · Mar 31, 2005

Thanks for the feedback.

Barbi1258 · Mar 31, 2005

I forgot to mention something to Hutchenson. Out of all the moderators on this forum, you are truly the rudest one of all. It's sad that you go out of your way to be insulting in your replies, but it's even sadder that DMOZ administrators allow you to get away with it. I've read many replies you have given to other members asking for a status check and mister -- you take the cake on attitude.

It's sad enough being rejected in the directory without you throwing in your opiniated insults and sarcasm. You should really get off your high-horse and try to be a nicer person. Shame on you!

Barbi1258 · Apr 1, 2005

Kokopeli,

When editors state "lack of unusual content" does this mean it's products already listed on the directory? I'm trying to understand how you determine which sites not to include. Thanks

overall · Apr 1, 2005

Just an observation Barbie 1258, but what are the 'Gift partners' on your site? That may be part of the problem.

Barbi1258 · Apr 1, 2005

Overall,

It may be, but not necessarily. In looking at sites thru the DMOZ Directory, quite a few of them have an Affiliates Page. If they include theirs, why would mine be excluded? My site is 99% non-affiliate products and 1 page created to Affiliate Partners. I'm trying to obtain clarification because that 1 page can always be removed.

overall · Apr 1, 2005

I was trying to be kind. I am a complete novice yet even I get a feeling of déjà vu when looking through your site, and that's apart from the affiliate problem. You are dealing with people here who have been editing for years, they know all the tricks even if you did something by accident.

Barbi1258 · Apr 1, 2005

You were kind

and I appreciate your input. As to the "deja vu" feeling, I know my products are popular on the Internet; however, DMOZ has approved at least 10 sites carrying the same products on their directory, so I don't see why those sites would be approved and mine excluded.

As a matter of fact, one of the sites they have listed in the directory is based "solely" on affiliate products. When you click on any of their product links, they redirect the customer to GoCollect. They got listed on the directory.

In another post, an Editor was saying they do not exclude a site based on having an affiliate link (and this is obvious since so many sites on their directory have them), so I want clarification as to why they are discriminating with my site.

spectregunner · Apr 1, 2005

Barbi:

I believe that you have received about all the clarification what we are willing to provide.

It's not you, and it's not personal.

Spammers read these forums like a religious tome. The more information we give to you, the more information we give to people who want to aggressively exploit that knowledge to manipulate the directory for their own purposes.

I haven't looked at your site, nor have I looked a the editor notes that surround your site, but what I hear the other editors telling you is that this is a fairly clear-cut proposition. Your site is ineligible for a listing, and it is not a matter of a little tweak. ((despite for forum guidelines to the contrary, if the reason for rejection is something that can easily be fixed, we usually try and leave some pretty broad hints)).

As for Dr. H. He really is a nice guy, but an acquired taste. Don't personalize and read his replies with the thought that, if nothing else, you are probably getting a heck of a free vocabulary lesson.

Barbi1258 · Apr 1, 2005

Spectrum,

I know it's not me and I don't take it personal. My site sales assure me of that.

However, the bias way Editors choose to include or exclude sites should be re-evaluated by DMOZ management. IT'S BLATANT DISCRIMINATION to include in your directory sites that sell the same products (which include affiliate links) and at the same time for Editors to decide to exclude others. DMOZ guidelines should apply to all sites and not to selective ones at an Editor's opinion.

As to Hutchenson, the "heck of a free vocabulary lesson" -- as you call it -- comes across as insulting, sarcastic and rude, and -- I'll quote Hutchenson's words:

That much, I think you can understand.

Thanks for the reply and have a good day

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