Why can't I have feedback on my rejected site?
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dogbows said:
I have been asked privately why there is such a difference between Dogbows (95% of listes sites are not suggested) and mine (50%) numbers. That's very easy to explain. We are working in different parts of the directory (some parts have much more suggestions, and some parts have much more spam).
The overall message is: suggestions are only a (sometimes small) part of the total number of sites we add. And to my opinion that is a good thing (certainly if I look at the avergae quality of the suggested sites).
drmike, neither I nor any of the billions of other people who did not visit your website today intended any insult thereby. And it is imprudent to read insult where none is intended. It is even more imprudent to express it to an audience you suspect might not be in full sympathy with your ambition.
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Re the percentage of sites submitted versus found by editors. I work in a number of categories that are very different from each other. In one of those, almost no one ever submits a sites, I just found the category by accident, applied to be an editor, and went looking for more sites, I probably added 150 sites there, and most of the site owners probably have no clue there are even there. So thats 95% added by me.
In another area, I found a number of sites on a subject I was interested in were misfiled since there was no category. After some editor discussion, the category was created and I added around 60 more sites, I get one or two submissions a year - but 90% are added by me.
On the other hand I have a category which has several hundred sites listed. If I worked at it, I could add thousands more - but I'm not interested - it would serve no purpose, I get routine submissions and add them within a day or two. I add none myself - 0% added by me.
In another area, I found a number of sites on a subject I was interested in were misfiled since there was no category. After some editor discussion, the category was created and I added around 60 more sites, I get one or two submissions a year - but 90% are added by me.
On the other hand I have a category which has several hundred sites listed. If I worked at it, I could add thousands more - but I'm not interested - it would serve no purpose, I get routine submissions and add them within a day or two. I add none myself - 0% added by me.
dogbows] [COLOR=Teal][B said:
Yep, that would be true for me as well. I haven’t had 1 submitted site come in since I've started, yet have added many sites.
drmike said:
Now this is where I think a lot of webmasters get off trail. I don't believe that the ODP view webmasters (or anyone suggesting a site) as customers or even customer like. That would be reserved for the end user of the directory.
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The above is just the opinion of a volunteer editor, and not an official ODP statement. I could be wrong on all points.
You all are doing pretty good on this thread, however I must admit I read the first 4 pages then jumped ahead to the last page. I currently edit a couple ODP cats. Both are not very active, and so far I haven't recognized anthing as spam. In addition I am assisting a friend in their various 'Suggest URL' efforts for their company web site. I have sugd their URL to the proper ODP cat and it's only been a few months so far. Going into the project I understood the length of wait can vary dramatically, so we were reserved to waiting patiently. Then a couple days ago I posted a Status? question and received a very timely response very similar to what appears to be the majority answer. So we are back to patiently waiting but continuing on with 'Suggest URL' efforts otherwise. Somewhere earlier in this thread, someone mentioned to the effect that they would appreciate simply knowing if their site is still waiting in line, or perhaps it never made it to the wait line. That's the group I fall into. I recognize that ODP Editors are volunteers and they are proceeding as best they can, and I'm alright with that, but the long wait without knowing, with the possibility of finding out many months down the road that the Suggested URL never made it to the wait line can be a really tough loss to swallow - or feed to your clients. Because I respect the ODP and they way they have developed Their programs, I wouldn't begin to tell them they are wrong and changes are necessary. I can only inform of how their program works for me and hope my information is in some way useful to them in the future. Admittedly, the waiting without knowing is terribly frustrating especially when your clients request status and the only answer you have to give is "I don't know, and status is not available." But that's the current program and we are living with it. Well I've thrown my 2 cents into this thread and find Patient Waiting a bit easier now. Thanks, K.
Well, we do give that info. Not immediately, but 30 days after submission.
Thirty days doesn't seem like such a long wait to me.
Remember, we aren't offering a service to webmasters, we are just building a directory. Now it's true that many webmasters would like to be listed in the directory, and we accept their sites for consideration, but we go at our own pace and we don't promise to list every site submitted.
Wemasters, SEO's and others are quick to tell us how what we do is useful to them and how we could help them more.
I'm not so sure how good we are at telling them how it works for us and how they could help us. Hutcheson keeps saying that it would work best for us if people would just submit their sites once and then go do something else and just not worry about it.
That really would work best for us.
However, webmasters and others do want to know if their sites are at least in the queue, and we do agree to tell people whether or not their site is waiting in the queue. We do it in the Site Submission Status forum, but I think you know that.